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Military Coup in Myanmar

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    Myanmar's civilian government has been overthrown with Nobel Prize Winner Ang San Suu Kyi detained. This is following elections in November where the losing military backed party claimed massive fraud and the military is claiming that the civilian elected government didn't thoroughly investigate those claims. Most evidence points to the civilians winning overwhelmingly.

    All of this sounds disturbingly familiar..

    https://apnews.com/article/aung-san-suu-kyi-myanmar-dda3d013897e14d5d0bd44d19eac9cd1

    Military stages coup in Myanmar, detains Aung San Suu Kyi
    NAYPYITAW, Myanmar (AP) — Myanmar’s military staged a coup Monday and detained senior politicians including Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi — a sharp reversal of the significant, if uneven, progress toward democracy the Southeast Asian nation has made following five decades of military rule.

    An announcement read on military-owned Myawaddy TV said the military would take control of the country for one year. It said the seizure was necessary because the government had not acted on the military’s claims of fraud in November’s elections — in which Suu Kyi’s ruling party won a majority of the parliamentary seats up for grabs — and because it allowed the election to go ahead despite the coronavirus pandemic.

    The takeover came the morning the country’s new parliamentary session was to begin and follows days of concern that the military was plotting a coup. The military maintains its actions are legally justified — citing a section of the constitution it drafted that allows it to take control in times of national emergency — though Suu Kyi’s party spokesman as well as many international observers have said it amounts to a coup.

    It was a dramatic backslide for Myanmar, which was emerging from decades of strict military rule and international isolation that began in 1962. It was also a shocking fall from power for Suu Kyi, a Nobel peace laureate who had lived under house arrest for years as she tried to push her country toward democracy and then became its de facto leader after her National League for Democracy won elections in 2015.

    While Suu Kyi had been a fierce antagonist of the army while under house arrest, since her release and return to politics, she has had to work with the country’s generals, who never fully gave up power. While the 75-year-old has remained wildly popular at home, Suu Kyi’s deference to the generals — going so far as to defend their crackdown on Rohingya Muslims that the United States and others have labeled genocide — has left her reputation internationally in tatters.

    For some, Monday’s takeover was seen as confirmation that the military holds ultimate power despite the veneer of democracy. New York-based Human Rights Watch has previously described the clause in the constitution that the military invoked as a “coup mechanism in waiting.”

    The coup presents a test for the international community, which had ostracized Myanmar while it was under military rule and then enthusiastically embraced Suu Kyi’s government as a sign the country was finally on the path to democracy. There will likely be calls for a reintroduction of at least some of the sanctions the country had long faced.

    The first signs that the military was planning to seize power were reports that Suu Kyi and Win Myint, the country’s president, had been detained before dawn.

    Myo Nyunt, a spokesman for Suu Kyi’s party, told the online news service The Irrawaddy that in addition to Suu Kyi and the president, members of the party’s Central Executive Committee, many of its lawmakers and other senior leaders had also been taken into custody.

    Television signals were cut across the country and passenger flights were grounded, as was phone and internet access in Naypyitaw, the capital. Phone service in other parts of the country was also reported down, though people were still able to use the internet in many areas.

    As word of the military’s actions spread in Yangon, the country’s biggest city, there was a growing sense of unease among residents who earlier in the day had packed into cafes for breakfast and went about their morning shopping.

    By midday, people were removing the bright red flags of Suu Kyi’s party that once adorned their homes and businesses. Lines formed at ATMs as people waited to take out cash, efforts that were being complicated by internet disruptions. Workers at some businesses decided to go home.

    Suu Kyi’s party released a statement on one of its Facebook pages saying the military’s actions were unjustified and went against the constitution and the will of voters. The statement urged people to oppose Monday’s “coup” and any return to “military dictatorship.” It was not possible to confirm who posted the message as party members were not answering phone calls.

    The military’s actions also received international condemnation and many countries called for the release of the detained leaders.

    U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken expressed “grave concern and alarm” over the reported detentions.

    “We call on Burmese military leaders to release all government officials and civil society leaders and respect the will of the people of Burma as expressed in democratic elections,” he wrote in a statement, using Myanmar’s former name.

    The office of the U.N. secretary-general called the developments as a “serious blow to democratic reforms.”

    A list of people believed to have been detained, compiled by political activists, included several people who were not politicians, including activists as well as Suu Kyi’s lawyer. Those detentions could not be confirmed.

    The military TV report said Commander-in-Chief Senior Gen. Min Aung Hlaing would be in charge of the country, while Vice President Myint Swe would be elevated to acting president. Myint Swe is a former general best known for leading a brutal crackdown on Buddhist monks in 2007. He is a close ally of Than Shwe, the junta leader who ruled Myanmar for nearly two decades.

    In a later announcement, the military said an election would be held in a year and the military would hand power over to the winner.

    The military justified its move by citing a clause in the 2008 constitution, implemented during military rule, that says in cases of national emergency, the government’s executive, legislative and judicial powers can be handed to the military commander-in-chief.

    It is just one of many parts of the charter that ensured the military could maintain ultimate control over the country. The military is allowed to appoint its members to 25% of seats in Parliament and it controls of several key ministries involved in security and defense.

    In November polls, Suu Kyi’s party captured 396 out of 476 seats up for actual election in the lower and upper houses of Parliament.

    The military has charged that there was massive fraud in the election — particularly with regard to voter lists — though it has not offered any proof. The state Union Election Commission last week rejected its allegations.

    Concerns of a takeover grew last week when a military spokesman declined to rule out the possibility of a coup when asked by a reporter to do so at a news conference on Tuesday.

    Then on Wednesday, the military chief told senior officers in a speech that the constitution could be revoked if the laws were not being properly enforced. An unusual deployment of armored vehicles in the streets of several large cities also stoked fears.

    On Saturday and Sunday, however, the military denied it had threatened a coup, accusing unnamed organizations and media of misrepresenting its position.
     
  2. Xerobull

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    The US surviving a Coup attempt is just simply not the norm. Michael Flynn didn't suggest and direct this attempt out of nowhere. He's crazy, but he has experiential knowledge in a way to make him effective at something like this.

    What happened on January 6th is either just going to be a dress rehearsal for the successful attempt that'll likely happen next time, or it'll be a blip on the radar if we fix our Democracy.
     
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    Dude,

    you are not getting many replies on the Dumb & Dumber on this topic

    None of these art history dropouts can point out where Myamar or Burma on a map.
    hell, they can't even find GameStop at the mall
    @Os Trigonum
    Good luck that they know anything about the political situation besides a Rambo movie or a u2 song from the 2000s.
     
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    Wow, intense.

    I just burned 1200 calories doing the Burma Shaky Shaky Coup
     
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  7. malakas

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    The most disturbing fact is that a genocide commiting government won overwhelmingly the elections.
     
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    2021 to 2020

    Hold my beer.
     
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    They're going to change the name back to Burma.
     
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    I was in Naypyidaw in 2013, the place looks eery like that all the time coup or no coup - huge empty roads (4 lanes on each side) with military spread out all over.
     
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    Kind of interested to see how Biden reacts. And what sort of relationship the military want with the rest of the world.

    Burma before the democratisation was seen as a pawn of China, beholden to them for everything. Part of the reason Burma went democratic was a belief it can get out from China's economic hold.

    Now I don't think the West has the power to stop the military overthrowing the government.

    So does Biden stand up for democracy or play real politics and try hold a relationship with the military government of Burma, to curtail Chinese influence.
     
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    Is that how you spell "Burning" in Burmese?
     
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    IDK I'm not a python.
     
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    Trump to his cult.......Now THATS how you do it!
     
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    How do you call someone from Myanmar without using Burmese?

    Myanmartian?

    Burma got a shitton of gas. We might be meddling there in a few years, if only to annoy China.
     
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    LOL I like her moves. Nice find Commodore.
     
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    The military was worse. I was listening to a discussion on BBC about the coup and part of the discussion was about Ang San Suu Kyi and the Rohingya situation. They were stating that suppression of the Rohingya is widely popular in Myanmar and one of the few things that Suu Kyi's party and the military agree on. The feeling was that Suu Kyi didn't address the Rohingya or even defends the ethnic cleansing of them because she believed that would end her government or that she really does agree with most Burmese that the Rohingya should be driven out.

    Either way things aren't going to get better for the Rohingya under the military.
     
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    That is just surreal. It's like something out of a movie.
     
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    yes I know. It's the buddhist majority that want to kill and exile them.
    That's why I said disturbing.
    Imagine if your choices when voting is between a military junta and supporting genocides.

    Imagine if the lesser of two evils is genocide. It is really disturbing
     

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