I am coming around to your view of Wood. I still cant shake the feeling that he is more 4 than 5 but cant really argue with the numbers he is putting up from the pivot. Oladipo is a thornier issue. Lets put to one side his play on the court. Are you willing to invest $25+ million in capspace in Oldadipo? I think that is what it is going to take to keep him. Oladipo, at 32, making around $30 in the midst of Wood's prime (assuming he is the franchise) could EASILY be an anchor around this teams neck. I am much more interested in turning Dipo into young prospects to put around Wood than I am draft picks. Take a look at this trade suggestion and tell me what you think: https://tradenba.com/trades/diFd37P4O This is a deal you do to build around Wood. Precious and Williams are both rugged 4s who can tangle with 5s when Wood needs to be protected or is in foul trouble. Nesmith and Okpala are wings with upside so that we arent banking on Tate and Jones alone (we'll see about Porter but I cant bring myself to even include moving forward. Anything you get from him is gravy). The hope is that the bigs pan out and one of the wings turns into something that can be in the rotation. IF you arent paying Dipo this is the type of deal you do IMHO.
I am fine paying Diplo and I am fine with flipping him for a young asset with star potential in a trade like the one your propose. I've actually posted several Precious+ for Diplo trades on this board. I'm just not fine with flipping him for expirings + FRPs like many seem to advocate. I would absolutely love to find a solid, young 4/5 to pair with Wood. I hate that we traded Allen for another RFP. I would have far preferred to keep him. My number one option would be somehow to extend Diplo and trade Tucker and/or Gordon for a young guy who will get paid when Wall comes off the books. A Herro or Michael Porter Jr. type. Is this realistic? No. But a man can dream.
Yeah, as UT guy I would have been fine with Allen and would be cool with Bamba or Hayes too. But I think Precious should be the guy given the sentiment that Dipo likes the Heat. I just worry that we are seeing the best that Dipo has to offer moving forward given his age and injury history. I'd give him EGO/third star money but I think that is a nonstarter for him. And, yeah, I think Herro or MPJ would require Dipo and picks.
Sign him if he wants to stay. If he wants to go to Miami, I would still sign him for his bird rights will probably be a big asset in trade talks to a contender considering their cap space. I would offer Dipo/Tucker & maybe even house to the Heat for Herro. I want herro for the rebuild lol Basically unless **** goes south, keep everyone for the playoff push. I think a playoff appearance will help accelerate the image built around the organization and slowly help hype it up. If we end up a high enough seed, I think Silas gets coach of the year & Stone gets executive of the year. I think we have to compete to start the change of culture and image of the rockets. Revaluate in the off-season after seeing how healthy players were able to stay. I want Wall to finish out his contract. His leadership will be great for the culture and mentor young guys
Yes he went there because of the name Lakers but if they did not have the assets to get AD, he would not have went somewhere else.
Please show me where I said that? I have issue with the word great being thrown around and if you pay oladipo the max and then pay Woods you can't afford to get that 3rd star. I have no idea why you are so hot for Oladipo but not Gordon, they are both 2 way players and Gordon shoots much better and is cheaper.
You literally called an analogy of mine -- which others discussed and found interesting -- "disqualifying." That's an attitude that is pervasive with you pro-tanking folks. Once Wall comes off the books, we'll have plenty of cap space to sign a third guy. We only have like $86,000,000 in guaranteed contracts next season, half of which is Wall. We have a ton of cap flexibility going forward.
My impression of Dipo is that Silas really likes him and values him more than stats will show. Maybe he personifies what Silas believes a great player should be, on the court and in the locker room. Someone who fights through adversity, willing to work for it. On the court a see a player that's maybe 80% of his former offensive self but slowly getting better, but he is still an elite defender. Yes, elite. Watch the Portland game and he pretty much shut down Damian in the end, and that was a game we would historically have lost, Trent Jr hit 7 friggin 3's in a row. That's a game where Dame can litterally drop a couple in the end and close us but Dipo took him out. Iam not sure what he is worth, but from a defensive standpoint and being too early to determine his offensive potential, I think you try to keep him if indeed he is part of this early glue.
Thing is we had harden so everyone is comparing star players to harden. Not everyone is that good. Oladipo is obviously a lesser player but he still does what he does very well
You want to give up Victor Oladipo for a collection of total scrubs? Shouldn't we at least get a starter back? Sweet Jesus. Imagine trading James Harden, and the main pieces you get back are Precious and Timelord. We found 3 better players than those guys for the minimum this last offseason, and you are trying to give a 25-5-5 all-star SG for them?
I do think Silas sees him in a similar light as Spo sees Jimmy Butler. Miami is going to go after him hard...
I have no idea what point you are trying to make here, that analogy was disqualifying and it seems you have made even worse ones. Once again I am not pro tanking why are you trying to label me as such, please show a post where I say we should tank? Plenty of Money to sign a third one? Just like we had plenty of money to sign a 3rd one when we had CP3 and Westbrook?
Where are you getting that impression from? Damian was checked by primarily checked by Gordon down the stretch.
Dipo was on him the last few minutes of the game and he locked him up, do you have the game recorded?
First of all, nice avatar. Second, the main pieces of the Harden deal are draft picks. Third, I think you are wrong about Achiuwa being a scrub. As a 21 year old rookie he is averaging 17/11 per 36. He only averages 15 minutes per game as he and Adebayo playing together hurts their spacing. The rest of the players in my proposed deal are lottery tickets. They are all young (21,23, & 25) and so their primes line up with Wood's. Maybe they end up "total scrubs" maybe they end up as key rotation pieces or maybe they just end up as trade fodder down the line. Regardless, they are something to show for a player that, I think, the Rockets are not going to re-sign at the price he is going to demand in the offseason.
