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Biden's executive orders

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ryan_98, Jan 21, 2021.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    I get it and am not going to say that this will be an easy transition and there will be job losses.

    I definitely think we need to find ways to ease the transition but not going to deny that some jobs will go away and not come back. That's what happens when there are economic transitions. My own view continues to be that longer we delay it the harder it will get to make the necessary transitions. I understand we are still using O&G and there still is a demand for it. If that demand is being sustained though by subsidies and spending on O&G infrastructure the answer should be to stop those subsidies and switch infrastructure. That will start creating the market conditions for the transition.
     
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    Except how is the infrastructure for green energy going to be built if money is still being spent on O&G infrastructure?
     
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    Oh I don't sincerely believe we should let market forces run rampant for a pressing issue like Climate Change. That comment was me being sarcastic.

    The problem with "market forces" is that most of the market in terms of energy is owned by publicly traded companies meaning these companies are run by hiveminds wanting one thing, a return in their stock investments. That system doesn't allow for these market forces to give two ***** about what happens to this planet 20 years from now. Only people at the voting booth care about the long term future of the country. When you buy a stock, your intention is nothing more than making as quick of a return on investment as possible with those bought shares.
     
  4. Dubious

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    The less oil we import from Canada, the more valuable oil in Texas becomes... supply and demand.

    Look at all the Permian pipelines that are being built or just coming into service.
     
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    It's not easy but it has to be said.

    Do you think we should avoid solving the opioid crisis due to saving drug manufacturer jobs?

    Should we bring back asbestos insulation to revitalize the industry, lead paint/gas? Cigarette use is decreasing, people in the Tobacco factories are going to lose jobs from this.

    For climate change, environmental and human health, non-renewables are an immediate and grave threat, it must be tackled and swiftly as possible.
     
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    Back in the day Dachuda would have been against seat belts if had been an auto worker and it led to .05% loss of jobs in the auto industry due to a $50 or whatever extra cost or it would might have led to a 5% cent per hr cut in his pay or possiblya $500,000 cut in the CEO's take home.
     
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    He really would've felt the for the foremen at Ye Olde Child Labor Garment Factory when those pesky child labor laws were passed.
     
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    Got them new Tubman's sounds great.
     
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    This is all to true.

    When I was between jobs I tried to get several minimum wage jobs and some said I was overqualified and one manager said he wanted to hire me but his district manager said I would be difficult to work with because of my education.

    I have also tried for part time minimum wage jobs and the same thing had a friend recommend me and his manager was gonna hire me until he looked at my resume and said why would he want to work here?

    It was an eye opening exp.
     
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    Nick: "Wah wah wah wah, wah wah...."
    Dachuda: "Hunh?"
    Nick: "Wah wah. Wah wah wah wah...."
    Dachuda: "I can't understand you, Miss Othmar."
     
  12. jiggyfly

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    Bingo!

    That thought process goes for anybody who have had good paying jobs in their 40's it has happened to me I forgot about the fact that you probably would always be looking for another job.

    There is also the fact that the boss would feel inferior to somebody who has made that kind of money.
     
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    Are you talking about the XXL pipeline?
     
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    Given the prev Admin EOs, he should do more of them and at faster speed.

    When someone flip a card 100 times with ease, it takes 100 times to flip it back also with ease.

    How silly to think that you should spend your time to build a complex error prone machine that likely fail to flip most of them back.

    Instead of focusing on #, talk about which of his EO should have waited and be done through Congress.

    In the meantime:

     
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    Executive orders are the quickest way to address issues that Trump ****ed up. He issued them over 4 years, that's why there are a lot that need to be addressed. I commend Biden's staff for preparing so may EO's so fast. Good people doing good work!
     
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    I'd be interested in a breakdown of how many are undoing what Trump did, how many are a direct reaction to the pandemic, and how many are new initiatives.
     
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