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[538] RAPTOR Best Players This Season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by larsv8, Nov 18, 2019.

  1. RocketsFido

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    There was a point in time that Ryno's 80mil contract created a hole for us in the playoffs.

    Now that player might be EG... and we can't even trade him this year because of the extension rules. :mad:
     
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    That's what "He quit," looks like statistically.
     
  6. topfive

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    In that case, Dame Lillard looks like he retired.
     
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    Can we talk him out of retirement and to come to the Rockets? CJ can come too.
     
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    Raptor with Goat head.
     
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    God, no. Please, please, please no.

    If they can't make the Blazers contenders, why would we want them here?
     
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    Mark of the beast.
     
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    Sample size too small. Him and cobolco have each played 32 minutes and cobolco has a + defensive #. Cobolco just runs around in weird directions.
     
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    Your idea is correct, your points are not. Because both ends of the court matter, differential matters. By that measure he's better than Gordon and Tucker currently. But that's also irrelevant. He has only played 32 minutes, 10 of which was with the D-team against Orlando and 10 of which was the Rockets getting curbstomped by the Lakers and refs from the opening tip. This evidence wouldn't hold up in court. :cool:

    I wouldn't argue that he should be a starter (in spite of the parody avatar) but he should be used as a specialist.
     
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    MAclemore was bad at defense last year too. There is a reason he doesn’t start and it’s absolutely defense imo
     
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    I know the sample size is small but I keep telling people Cousins has been playing well...now if only he can play more and not get tossed out of games...
     
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    Check 538s assessment of Eric Gordon (they give players a category like: rotation player, borderline all-star, up and comer, bench player - etc)

    Eric Gordon
    category: Scrub
     
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    Regardless of the condescending tone of a fanboy and his sunglass emojis, my idea and my points are both correct. His differential is negative and worse than multiple other potential starters in the wing positions (Nwaba, Tate, Brown).

    But I am well aware this is a small sample size, and I didn't say anything about this one metric deciding who starts. I said what I meant - that both ends of the court matter, and that this is yet another example demonstrating that his defensive liability offsets his offensive contribution. McLemore's defensive shortcomings are always overlooked by those who think he should start because he shoots 3-pointers well and that is all they know how to observe. That was true over a larger sample last year, and it's still true this year.
     
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    I know how sample sizes work, and that Cobolco is ridiculous. But there is nothing abnormal about McLemore's ratings.

    Last year it was the same story - +2.0 offense, -2.8 defense on 1,749 minutes. It is always the same story.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-player-ratings/

    EDIT: I was wrong. it's not always the same story - he used to be a negative offensively too.

    Name Year Minutes Offense Defense
    Ben McLemore 2015 2,670 +0.2 -0.4
    Ben McLemore 2016 1,443 -1.7 -0.8
    Ben McLemore 2017 1,176 -1.8 -1.8
    Ben McLemore 2018 1,091 -2.3 -2.4
    Ben McLemore 2014 2,187 -1.9 -3.7
     
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