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Playing Off The Ball

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Jan 10, 2021.

  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    And I guarantee he is trying to win each game while building an offensive identity that he believes would be most conducive to winning in the longer term. Maybe you find that concept difficult to understand, but it's not voodoo.
     
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  2. D-rock

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    So why differentiate Silas from Morey/MDA in terms of win strategy. Every friggin team has short and long term plans.

    But now you are spinning your stance to wanting to win every single regular season game like MDA?

    I thought Silas was much more farsighted and interested in long term goals like playoffs success like Pop?

    You are just moving goalposts now because your initial stance about Silas not prioritizing regular season wins because he had long term goals (that only great teams like the Spurs have - LOL) was so weak.
     
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  3. kingkingston

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    Wall can shoot, he has a pretty good percentage on catch and shoot shots. 5-8 from three in the last 2 games
     
  4. dmoneybangbang

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    You lack nuance.
     
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  5. D-rock

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    Go ahead and spin this durv, you normally are not this evasive or so off your game.

     
  6. D-rock

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    You lack common sense.
     
  7. durvasa

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    And some offensive systems are better suited for maximizing wins in the regular season and others are better suited for winning in the playoffs. That's been the knock on MDA style offenses, as I'm sure you well know. Even Morey has commented about how our offensive style was likely to be less effective in a playoff setting but nevertheless he felt it gave us the best chance of winning overall given the personnel that we had.
     
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    Perfect illustration about nuance. Illustrating the difference in philosophies not comparing stone/Silas to Spurs.

    To edit: Nick Nurse also uses regular season to experiment and tinker.
     
  9. D-rock

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    What alternate reality are you going create for us this time?
     
  10. D-rock

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    Even if what you're spouting has any semblance of truth, what makes you believe Silas system or plan would make him more successful in the postseason?

    Nothing.

    Mavs did jack in the postseason for all your highbrow BS about maximizing offense in the playoffs.

    You are full of **** durv.

    Nothing in Silas history shows us that he is some playoffs mastermind.
     
  11. durvasa

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    That's irrelevant. You insisted that Silas should focus exclusively on winning regular season games and not worry about the playoffs. I directly quoted him to show that his offensive approach was in fact based on him worrying about the playoffs. Now you want me to defend that his choice is a better one for the playoffs? Talk about moving goal posts.
     
  12. D-rock

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    And I showed you a link stating that Silas was in his own words a "win now" coach.

    And we also saw how crushed he was after losses, especially after Mavs beatdown. So regular season wins are important to him.

    You are creating some fake persona for Silas that has not been substantiated anywhere but in your own mind.

    Rockets have to learn to win again. The sooner the better.

    So your "patience grasshopper" routine is simply your way of buying Silas more time and pushing one of your highfalutin contrarian views.
     
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    This is ... slippery.

    Here's what the article from your link says:

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/te...as-ready-to-win-now-with-Rockets-15706054.php


    “That’s one of the things that makes this job so exciting: to have the roster that has been put together here, to have two future Hall of Famers and All-Stars and MVPs (Harden and Russell Westbrook),” Silas said. “For me, it being my first head coaching experience and being in a win-now situation, that’s great. I’m a win-now coach. So to not have to deal with growing … to think championship right away, it’s exciting to me, and I’m prepared for it, and I’m ready for it.”

    "Win-now", as in ready to try to win a championship this season. It doesn't mean just worry about winning regular season games and playoffs later. Come on, now.
     
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    HOF's fuming.

    BTW, this is the reason why Harden is not getting any other star teammates. No one wants to play that kind of "you turn, my turn" basketball.

    Harden is just who he is. Great to get to the playoffs, win some games, go out in 2nd round. Can't play 4on5 on most possesions and ISO ball on the other ones.
     
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    Because Harden is a selfish jerk and he needs to be taught a lesson, according to a friend (CF’s)
     
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    What is slippery is you ignoring how Silas reacts to losses.

    He is crushed by these losses. You can see it with his body language and tone.

    And no championships will be won if Rockets do not put themselves in postseason position by winning regular season games.

    And it was awfully convenient to overlook the CRITICAL part of your chosen quote:

    There is an expectation on Silas part that Rockets will be successful immediately NOT LATER OR DOWN THE ROAD IN SOME FAR OFF NEVERLAND.

    Why dont you understand that you cannot win a championship if you do not win enough regular season games to qualify for the playoffs?

    Or perhaps you do understand this but are simply deflecting because your original point was so obsequious.
     
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    You can' be serious... can you?

    If a player on the offensive end is not trying to be a offensive threat, what does your math tell you for that possesion? It's 4 on 5. And if Harden isn't ready to shoot after Wall found him... it's wall's fault?

    This is the most ridiculous **** i've ever seen.
     
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    Meanwhile...

     
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    Lmaoooo what??? Yea dude guys are missing James freaking Harden because he’s not in a motion to catch and shoot. Give Harden the ball more and then complain don’t complain to me when dude’s like Gordon dive into like 4 people.Unbelievable

    And I said Wall is the only one who bothers to look for him. Sheeesh man
     
  20. Rockets4Life13

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    You're proving my point here, are you aware? This is literally a whole video of Lebron evaluating what's going on and moving off the ball for easy dunks. Ever seen Harden do that? He can't even put his hands up to be ready to catch and shoot.

    Edit: Not sure if that was actually your point lol. If so, my bad.
     

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