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Can Steph carry his own team thread.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jiggyfly, Dec 22, 2020.

  1. Clutch City1993

    Clutch City1993 Bury Me In The H

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    Sorry bro. Nothing is killing me. You've talked yourself in a corner and now you're stuck.

    Keep it coming though.
     
  2. Htown's Finest

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    Yes these are some people theories that if Jordan was playing in 94 we would not have won. But that's not what the conversation is about (follow along). This is what you said. "To alot of national media critics, they do not". Which I asked you to give me the receipts of those "national media critics" who think our 94 championship had an asterisk because Jordan was not there. 25 minutes later and I'm still waiting on articles from you on these so called "national media critics"...
     
  3. Htown's Finest

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    You're so lost in this conversation it's comical and the fact you don't even realize you're lost is the funnier part
     
  4. Clutch City1993

    Clutch City1993 Bury Me In The H

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    Whatever makes you feel better homie
     
  5. Htown's Finest

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    I'm not trying to pick on you bro, and I will apologise if that's how it came off. But if you make a bold statement like that you gotta be able to back it up. I see so many people here on this site use what I call CF talking points with no real evidence in the points. Nothing wrong with believing something, but when you try to make it seem like it's a fact that's something different.
     
  6. Clutch City1993

    Clutch City1993 Bury Me In The H

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    I dont take anything personal. I stick to my beliefs when it comes to Curry and how GSW benefitted from injuries in 2015 and the big KD signing.

    Honestly I took comfort in hearing you say "a title is a title" and "sign stealing is legal" because I dont see any astericks next to that Astros championship.

    Especially when Boston and NYY were popped and fined for the same thing in the same year (2017).

    To be fair, sign stealing IS illegal when the use of technology is involved but thats something new that the mlb is dealing with. However, I feel they have used Houston as a scapegoat for the entire issue.
     
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  7. Outlier

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    Curry >>> Harden and it's not even close.
     
  8. Clutch City1993

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    I wonder who would receive a better trade package if they were available
     
  9. CircaSurvive

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    Bunch of clown Shaq types up in here, B-BUT HOW MANY RANGZ U GOT CHUCK!?
     
  10. Easy

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    I've said it earlier in this thread. Who cares whether a guy can carry a crappy team to the playoffs. What's important is whether the guy can lead a talented team to a championship. Curry has done that. Harden hadn't have a chance to prove that yet. (Whether the lack of chances was Harden's fault, the coaches' fault, Morey's fault, or all of them has been debated many times here.)
     
  11. Major

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    Due to health/fragility issues, probably Harden. But if we knew they would stay healthy, I don't think there's much question it would be Curry for a team that's trying to go from good to great. If you acquire Curry, because of his willingness to endless run around and creation motion for the defense, every other player on the team becomes better. No one doubts that Green/Thompson/etc benefit from having Curry out there and that the team philosophy was a key component in GSW's success. There are far more questions about how Harden impacts the rest of a team. Besides Westbrook and Paul both wanting out, neither was any better individually playing alongside Harden. His iso style and everyone needing to be spot up 3-pt shooters doesn't necessarily maximize all the role players' strengths.

    That said, If you're a lower tier team, Harden would likely individually will improve that team more (going from bad to good) because he can just do more by himself.
     
  12. Htown's Finest

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    I got you, and of course the GSW benefited from others teams injuries. But at the end of the day rather I like it, or any other person likes it, it's still a title. That's the only point I was trying to make bro. And I don't give a damn what the national media says, Astros still the 2017 World Series Champs! :)
     
  13. Htown's Finest

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    Now I agree with everything you said a 1000% until you got to this part (nobody is going to agree 100% with everything you say ever, I get that) LMAO. I don't know man, I think Harden has had chances here with us. Maybe some of it was his fault, coach, teammates, etc like you said. But I feel that in 2018 in was there for the taking...
     
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  14. Easy

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    It's debatable. I know Rockets fans like to claim that we "would have won a championship" had CP3 not pulled his hammy. But if you watched the series, you could see that the Warriors were the better team. Even with a healthy Paul, Games 6 & 7 were not a given. The first three games were blowouts, two GS wins and one Rockets win. Games 4 and 5 were toss ups that could go either way.

    What's important is that you could see that except for Game 2, the Rockets had to work REALLY HARD from start to finish, especially on the defensive end. The Warriors, on the other hand, looked relaxed and confident even when they were losing. I felt that the longer the series dragged on, the more advantage would go to GS because the kind of energy the Rockets had to put on playing defense was not sustainable for a long time.

    I don't think it was Harden's fault we lost. The Warriors just had superior talent.
     
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    It's definitely a very debatable subject and trust me I'm virtually all talked out about this topic on this site. But I still put a lot of the blame on Mike "I won't make any damn adjustments" D'Antoni.
     
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  16. Outlier

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    Winners win. Curry wins. Harden doesn't. Plain and simple. Also, Curry is a much better teammate and individual. Your organization is set behind a true leader like him. Everything else falls in place easily, even most malcontents. Harden himself is the malcontent.
     
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  17. RHU525

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    Did you watch game 7? The warriors were choking hard, before we went on a historic 0-27 streak. They didn't want it CP3 woulda took it.
     
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  18. T for 3

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    How many games before we can answer yes and move on?
     
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    it’s a long season, we’ll know by March
     
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    Of course I watched game 7. So they "choked" and what was 0-27? Non-choke?

    I believe the missed shots were caused by tired legs which was caused by having to spend so much energy on defense the whole series. CP3 would help but there's no guarantee that we could win that game.
     

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