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OLED, QLED and other TVs - Recommendations and News

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Yung-T, Oct 18, 2020.

  1. tinman

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  2. Yung-T

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    I can't post a detailed analysis of something that isn't on the market yet, hence why I said your quoted article is completely irrelevant and doesn't debunk anything.

    But according to display producers, Mini LED displays can have up to 100x contrast of current TVs, more brightness, better color separation and the LEDs can be multiple times smaller than normal ones and need less energy, the TV can be slimmer.

    I want to openly ask if you've ever seen a well-calibrated high-end QLED (2018 Q9fn or 2019 Q90R with 480 dimming zones, not the worse 2020 Q90T) outside of a store, as even professional calibrators say you can't see the black level difference at daytime and only in specific scenes in a pitch-black room, yet guys like you will just copy&paste LG comments saying only OLED delivers true blacks or that LCD tech is inherently muddy blacks.

    And the upcoming Samsung MiniLED for example can have up to 2500 dimming zones, meaning a very sharp and unparalleled increase in zones compared to current LCD TVs.

    Not to mention that a high-end QLED already beats OLED in bright and colorful content (every professional will tell you this and it's also backed by technical data, so please don't come back with another nonsense fluff piece or LG presser), but that even gets better with Mini LED.

    So if your only argument for OLED over Mini LED is "true blacks", it's an incredibly sh***y one and lazy.
     
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    The bright scenes where he mentions QLED leading by a good margin are what most of my content is (nature docs, anime, bright games), so I wouldn't want OLED even if it's better for dark scenes.
    Hence why I tell ppl that both technologies are better in specific scenarios and content, so ppl should never just buy one or the other without making sure it's suited to their viewing preferences.

    The 2019 and 2018 OLED vs QLED Videos are a better comparison imo, as Samsung significantly cheaped out on the 2020 model in that video and it only has 1/4 of previous models' dimming zones.
     
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    Oh so you are asking me to debunk your statements by providing technical analysis when you yourself don't have ****?

    And to cap it off you provide a blank statement from display producers "can have up to 100x contract of current TVs".......and these display producers have no bias right since they certainly wouldn't try to upsell a future product...

    which current TVs? the junk thats sold everywhere right now? Of course Mini LED will be better than regular LED TVs. That's a given. I said Mini LED TVs are not better than OLEDs.

    OLED is the benchmark for deep blacks and all QLED is trying to do is get as close as possible. Mini LED will get even closer.
    And yes, OLED doesn't get brighter than QLED or Mini LED...but guess what? not everyone needs a bright ass TV. I calibrated mine with Calman and my OLED light is set to 50 for nighttime and 80 for daytime viewing. I don't need it any brighter.

    Now if we want to talk about whether Micro LED or OLED is better....then I am all ears.

    P.S. stop being a samsung fanboi.
     
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    I didn't ask you to debunk anything, you came in with a completely non-tech article that even said they don't know how good Mini LED will be and yet you somehow acted like the notion of it being better than OLED is complete nonsense.

    Your entire argument for OLED is solely "deep blacks" and you don't even reply to the point of blacks being indistinguishable in most scenarios (that's not just my statement, even professionals say it).

    And I guess the only thing that matters for TVs is blacks in a pitch black room and night or space scenes, because f*** things like color gamut, display of strong color palettes, brightness and HDR impact? Also motion handling which is inherently worse on OLED.

    Weirdly one-dimensional view of what makes a TV picture, I guess you only watch black&white TV.
     
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    The future is QNED if you don't understand that you are literally a retart.
     
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    I literally told ppl multiple times in what case to buy an OLED and in what case to buy QLED, based on their room and content preferences.

    I guess sorry for not just shilling one tech without even asking ppl what kind of content they watch and what their regular viewing habits are.
     
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    I have a doomsday prepper oven that can be converted into a projection tv for sale. Taking highest bid.
     
  10. Sajan

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    If you are comparing QLED vs OLED
    Blacks: OLED
    Sharpness: OLED
    Viewing angle: OLED
    Brightness: QLED
    Contrast: QLED
    Color gamut: QLED 83% of Rec.2020 while OLEDs can do 75%.



    So no...I am not just talking about blacks and yes, none of this is even obvious to an average viewer who most likely will leave it in Standard Picture mode and hang it all the way up on their wall. Average consumer only cares about the size of the TV.

    The next evolution is going to be MicroLED.
     
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    Interesting, the 2019 LG OLED has higher brightness than the 2020 model. At some point it doesn't even matter that much. If you put the sun directly on either TV it's going to erode PQ.
     
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    Then we are on the same page on most technical aspects for QLED vs OLED and I agree with the video regarding bt.2020 specs being useless atm (my point was more about color volume and brightness for QLED).

    So I'm a bit surprised that you'd say Mini LED for example won't come close to OLED.
    QLED already leads in some categories that are evident even to an amateur viewer (like bright and colorful content, motion handling).

    Given that the 2018&2019 flagship QLED are very close in black levels to OLED and that Mini LED will have even better dimming and enhance the current QLED advantages, I'm not sure why one would say OLED will still lead the pack.

    At that point it's a battle of trade-offs where imo "perfect blacks" aren't enough when most other categories are in the Mini LED corner.
     
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    Yea it seems LG and Samsung tried to maintain their profit margins this year by reducing the quality of panels while rushing to implement hdmi 2.1 features, which is unfortunate.
    Most consumers will never hear about this and only get pushed towards the newest model by their store clerk.
     
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    It pushed the savvy consumers to the marked-down 2019 models, making it abnormally hard to find inventory in 2020.
     
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    Beets by Schrute.
     
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    No need to get racial.
     
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    My bad.

    African American: OLED
     
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