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Trump Wants to Give $2000 Instead of $600

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Dec 24, 2020.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    The Senate isn't going to pass this also this amendment wouldn't actually cut out any of the pork just raise the checks to $2,000.
     
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  2. Space Ghost

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    I wasn't sure if there was a legit reason why he would start a war 3 weeks before leaving office when he had 4 years to do it.

    Let's chalk that one up there with "nuking Democrat cities" in retaliation.
     
  3. Amiga

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    You equalize attacking Iran, which he has already done with the killer of their military leader to nuking Dem cities?

    As for legit, did any of the things I mentioned were or are legit? Yes, it is if you see that those are things that he believes would benefit him.
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    I agree he's not going to nuke Democrat cities but I think certainly some sort of foreign intervention is possible.

    Something like air strikes on Iran or deploying troops to a hot spot like Ethiopia is legal under Presidential powers, could even be justified for a variety of reasons and would leave Biden and the next Congress a mess to deal with. This would fit with the pettiness we've seen out of Trump since he's lost the election and if he's willing to torpedo pay raises for troops, seen unemployment benefits end and likely shut down the government I think he's very capable of engaging in some sort of military action to cause more chaos for Biden.
     
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  5. Nook

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    Trump doesn’t give a ****.

    He wants everything to go to **** so in 4 years he can run again.
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    I don't doubt Trump want to inflict massive chaos against both parties. He detests them.

    Trump doesn't have a history of murdering innocent brown people like our previous administrations. He has done a pretty decent job of keeping the US out of global conflicts.

    Trump is a terrible president. He has plenty of better ways to create discomfort for both parties. not signing the deal Congress agreed to is more effective. Any conflict would be resolved very quickly once Biden is in office.

    Trump is petty and childish.
    He isn't evil.
     
  7. deb4rockets

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    I'd say that what he has done these past months is nothing but evil. No mask, no lockdown, no social distancing, let it spread, scoff at the dead and spread lies and misinformation about the dangers of Covid is just plain evil. Meanwhile, the rich got richer, he can golf every weekend, and the big corporations got the bulk of the bailouts.
     
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  8. glynch

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/200...ious-mistake-biden-ally-larry-summers-2020-12

    Well Obama Treasury Secretary and Biden's finance advisor guy Larry Summers thinks $2,000 is too much for the little people. How disgusting.

    Relax, I know Joe is better than Donny. Such a low bar. Be content.

    BTW did Larry and gang worry about overheating the economy when they shoveled 10 trillion or whatever to the stock market that only 10% have much money in?

    Till the Dems stop catering to these types they will at best barely beat even a guy like Trump.
     
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    downplayin a dangerous and deadly virus in policy, words, and actions IS EVIL
     
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  10. Space Ghost

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    Trump does not have the authority to force states into lockdown or other mandates. This has been discussed repeatedly.

    Terrible leadership, yes.

    Why are you not calling the other countries evil who have adopted the same views of COVID as Trump?

    And yes, I agree. The wrong people received the bailouts. Just like too many of the wrong people will receive money from this bailout, $600 or $2000. I am glad we agree there.
     
  11. Major

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    When you are petty and childish and use your power to screw with people's lives to satisfy your ego, you are evil.
     
  12. Sanctity

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    Where is my $4000? I have child as well.
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    Evil would mean he has awareness that what he is doing is wrong, harms people but he still chooses to do it. I think he's more amoral than evil in that he doesn't really care.

    While Trump hasn't gotten us entangled in a major military engagement his administration certainly has been involved in global conflicts and killed brown people. He's continued the drone strike program and contrary to withdrawing troops from the Middle East he's redeployed troops fighting ISIS to protect oil fields and sent thousands of US troops to Saudi Arabia.

    My view of Trump using the military in the last few weeks wouldn't be about him wanting to kill people because he likes to kill people or he believes that those are sacrifices for a great good. A limited air strike or putting US troops in a peace keeping role in Ethiopia he might not consider those to be very risky.
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    Thats fine, its your opinion. You're welcome to marginalize the likes of mass shooters, terrorist, child peds, Hitler, Tilman Fertitta ect ...
     
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    This, along with so many other reasons, is why he and his enablers/co conspirators need to be prosecuted as soon as they leave the White House. We need to go scorched earth on these traitors. I want to see trumps whole world burn down around him.
     
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    LOL. Yeah, if you're not Hitler-evil, you can't be evil. You are a trip.
     
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  17. Amiga

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    If previous admin "murdered innocent brown people", they either did it with intent (quite evil), or without intent but it was a consequence of their own actions (not evil, but nevertheless, innocent died - so yes some would call that evil).

    Applying the same logic...

    If Trump admin "murdered innocent American and innocent brown people", they either did it with intent (quite evil), or without intent but it was a consequence of their own actions (not evil, but nevertheless, innocent died - so yes some would call that evil).

    If you are into intention as a measure of evil, I think there is a better argument that Trump is evil. He doesn't care about anyone except himself. His intention is what's best for him whatever the consequences. This is profoundly self-serving and immoral. Previously admins aren't anywhere near as self-serving or immoral, and is less evil.

    If you are into impact (# of dead) as a measure of evil, they may be on equate ground, depending on what you count. Trump admin oversaw 230k American Covid dead, probably 300k by 1/20/21. That's more than the previous 5 wars combined. If you count non-America dead, then the previous 5 wars definitely is above 300k.

    As a side note- while Trump didn't get us involved in any new major conflicts, he did increase drones attack and revoked the rule on reporting drone strike deaths. More attacks with less accountability - we are blind to how many "innocent brown people" he has "murdered".
     
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    If you don't think the GOP Governors took that mask, no lockdown, no social distancing stance to back their puppet master I don't know what to tell you. This is on Trump. He could care less how many have died, and yes, he is evil to the core. He doesn't have an empathetic bone in his body. He's a psychopath.
     
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    Yes he does, he has emergency powers that he choose not to use in the beginning. The whole notion of states taking on a pandemic is absurd and is the result of some anti federal/state rights nonsense.
     
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    No, he just allowed the Israelis and Saudis to take their gloves off. Even Congress didn't want to sell weapons to the Saudis so they could kill innocent civilians in Yemen. Civilian deaths skyrocketed under Trump.

    It's certainly an interesting strategy that put less US troops in harms way.
     

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