Why would a 3rd team give up a young player when they don't get Harden? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever, so my point still stands. The team who gets Harden needs to give up a great player. In Celtics case that's Brown, Nets have solid players so I'm not buying it. They're also good enough. Celtics need an upgrade, so I bet it's just a waiting game for them to give up Brown.
The idea that you can win a championship this year is what gives people that idea. NJ , Boston , Philly or even Miami even after giving up assets are probably prohibitive favorites to come out of the East if they add Harden. Teams don't have opportunities like this very often ....
Surrounding a non shooter with shooters is the EXACT same thing we did with Westbrook, until smart teams figured it out. Our season ended so bad I'm not sure how ppl would even entertain doing this again smh We'd essentially be circling our whole offense around our "star player's" massive liability. Yet, this is a trade yall are ASKING FOR????
Yeah this is BS. Harden’s playoff performances overall have been atrocious. Ppg don't mean anything if you're missing alot of shots. His turnovers are also bad. Relying on statistics when CLEARLY this guy's had the worse collection of playoff games says more about you than it does the media
Thats not what happened. WB was balling , the season got cancelled due to covid and when he came back he had Covid himself and was battling an injury that clearly took some toll on him. Also , to be fair, he never really fully bought into it. He wanted to play Westbrook ball, but thats just a personal flaw, not a "non shooter" flaw. Besides, almost every team plays formations with 1 non shooter, sometimes 2 and they still work, so lets not pretend that because WB sucked in the bubble thats because "smart teams" figured it out.
Now you're making excuses for WB. The team was actually struggling before the covid and didn't have a identity. Yes WB was putting up good individual numbers, but it didn't translate to anything significant for the team. Also teams were FORCING him to shoot by doubling Harden and disrupting our entire flow on offense. When the playoffs came we got exposed because the game slowed down. Mind you Simmons is WORSE because he won't even attempt open shots lol
there can’t be a trade with Boston if Brown is not part of it. Kemba is on a huge contract and doesn’t fit with Wall. And they don’t have the other assets to make a stand alone deal. Draft picks alone are not gonna be enough. Has to be Brown and I personally would be excited to turn the page having netted one of the better young stars in the NBA.
the sweep stakes may heat up but ainge isn’t gonna panic because his team lost regular season games or switch course because the nets look really good. We as fans act irrational like that, nba gm’s aren’t so reactionary. You can’t run business like that especially in sports. If the Celtics are involved already, there’s already been a decision organization wise to be involved. had they murdered the nets by 35, they don’t say cancel the trade because we beat a contender in game 2 of an nba season. These deals are talked about and debated about and planned and aren’t so flippantly done based off a win or a loss, at least not by well run organizations. Philly is different because they’ve underperformed and have legit concerns about the duo that have but again if Philly wants Harden it’s gonna get him not based off 15 games but the whole body of work of Simmons/embiid and harden. harden is one of the best players in the league, has been for a long time. Teams know what they are getting. If a deal hasn’t been done it’s because you haven’t been offered the home run deal yet.
A week ago Brown was an immediate YES in a Harden to Boston deal .. has that changed in the first few games? Obviously you would understand that without Brown in ANY deal for Harden Boston would not have a chance to sign him. Waiting and hoping that the team sorts things out and procrastinates then the price could go UP closer to trade deadline.
1st of all, I never said I wouldn’t trade Jaylen. I would. I’ve maintained after initially thinking he would that ainge wouldn’t and that was before the season started and nothing to do with how he’s played. my point is these gm’s, the smart ones have a better feel of their own players than we do as fans. They are around them up close, know how hard they work, have hours of film and staffs watching their games. If brown was available before he’s available now. If he wasn’t then he’s not now.
Depending on what they give up...... what i see yall asking in return means james wont have enough around him. Most of these teams are better off not making a deal if it costs too much.
Fair enough. Im just saying No Brown/No Harden .. its pretty simple. I like Brown. Only guy I would trade Harden for because of career arc and contract at the present day. Trying to sell me on a Marcus Smart package PLUS Porter Jr?? Cmon now I think bargain shoppers need to hang out on the sidelines until the trade deadline.
