It's hysterical. Tate is my favorite player now. It's Morey trying to make that trade happen. If that Denver deal is actually on the table it's definitely something to think on. I'd lean towards it if it has MPJ and Murray. That probably trumps anything Philly can offer. Daryl Morey is playing the Fertita/Harden role in this instance. Harden to Morey is equivalent to Russ to Harden/ Fertita JUST DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES AND DON'T GET LIGHT ON THE TRIGGER.
Harden always been like this though....He used to do Rivers like that. Probably why he left. Most teams give their rookies ish. Welcome to the NBA.
I don't have the whole article but I can already tell its BS from the first line : "The dynamics of the standoff will breed tension as the season tips off, " Will? You don't fking know that Scams.
The Rockets aren’t winning a championship with a malcontent as their top player. And it looks like this is what Harden will be for us. It’s also true that the Rockets will likely not get close to equal value for him. When has that ever happened for a player of his caliber? Sometimes you just have to cut your losses and move on to the next chapter.
Hope springs eternal. Cool to see so many guys think that James will somehow stay. I was like that too, but his body language and attitude are enough for me to be indifferent. I think it will be a trade deadline deal. It was good to get these offers out there for what will be an even bigger asking price later. Those teams who think they have a chance to win it all; who wouldnt normally find themselves in that position. Target those surprise teams or dark horses - they would be the ones to overpay.
Child please.... James wished he had the balls and nutz to back anything up like Butler did and has. Harden dreams of having equal amount of pubes Jimmy buckets has. Probably overcompensating with that beard.
Dumb take. They are also not winning a championship without Harden, so what does it matter that it messes up the chemistry while waiting for the best deal? Chemistry for what exactly? Is there a championship squad hidden within here, if so then they should hang on to Harden and hope he changes his mind. If not then they should not care about ruining chemistry since the team isn't going anywhere anyways. In neither case do you rush to take a deal just to "cut your losses". There aren't even any fans this season, prefect timing to get "uncomfortable" and wait for the best deal.
He going to play lights out until the deadline. We are on our own after that. He going month by month. He likely won't stay but is willing to have a look is my guess.
Thing that’s a little silly in these trade situations is that these players have a possibility of being traded to a team they not necessarily chose as we saw with Kawhi in Toronto. But they have no choice but to play and the result was a championship. All these reports are saying the rockets are exploring teams not necessarily his choice destinations where he is expected to play despite him not wanting to be there. At the end of the day he still has to play lol unless he elects a hold out precedence. There’s a certain irony to this whole situation.
This assumes Harden’s value does not decrease, dramatically. The value of a player on the wrong side of 30 will go down. And what if he gets injured? What if his stock plummets because of a really bad season? I’ll admit that my desire for a trade sooner than later is also that I want the new coach to have freedom to have his team play the way he wants them to play. With Harden, that flexibility is not there.
This is really just beating a dead horse. I get it Harden is great. It will be hard to replace his value in any trade scenario. I get that part too. But it's really getting quite pathetic how some of you guys are literally begging a player that clearly doesn't want to be here. I swear I honestly feel sorry for a lot of you guys, this is not how normal relationships work. You don't beg anyone ever in life to stay with you. I don't care if it's your girlfriend, best friend, wife, favorite Houston Rockets player, etc. And that's real talk. I just hate seeing young men or men in general who are spineless, because at one point in life I was there too. You'll forever be a doormat with that kinda thinking and will be taken advantage of by a lot of people. The Rockets franchise were James Harden's enablers. Enabling a person too much will have it's consequences on a relationship down the line, and I think currently we are down that line. The front office should see if the relationship with Harden is salvageable (I truly doubt that it is at this point), and establish plans for James staying here if that option is conducive for everyone here or if the best thing for the team is to trade him. Sometimes you just got to count your losses.
Harden has shown zero signs of decline. For injury concern hes been an iron man his whole career, but that is a legitimate risk in holding on to him, but you didn't say that before, you said you are worried about him being a malecontent. That really doesn't matter unless this is a contender otherwise. I would love to see Silas build his own culture and system as well, but nothing impacts the franchise as much as how they handle Harden right now.
He gone. I think he's too proud to back out now, and Fertitta did something really bad to have caused this type of exodus.
He's gone. Locked into the "professional" optics, but mentally he's clocked out according to anyone who's had some behind the scenes insight into the matter and his body language. Just does not respect Fertitta enough to ride with him. Balling out is the best thing he can do for everyone involved right now and for his mental health. Build up that brand and then become part of one of the biggest trades in NBA history.
I don't think it's as black and white as you are making it out to be. That's a very real concern about team moral. This isn't 2K, team chemistry does matter. Especially if you have players that you might consider as key rotational players like Boogie, Wall, Wood, etc. If the locker room is toxic and divided that is not going to bode well for any good playing environment here and that's if Harden stays here or is traded away. If the players like playing here and the culture is good that can go a long way in recruiting other players here. Look at the culture that Miami and Golden State has built. Players will take pay cuts to be apart of the culture because it's a non toxic environment.
Teams have won titles with players being unhappy or a malcontent... including franchise players. It usually comes down to talent. There is a chance that Harden will also soften his stance over time, but I wouldn't count on it. I tend to believe that the Rockets will get less than the fans expect as well, but I am not going to trade him just to trade him. This Rockets team isn't winning anything without James Harden anyway.
It is funny you mentioned GS and toxic environment because KD was disliked by a number of players in that locker room. There were players that really did not like Draymond Green, in fact Green and KD absolutely hated each other from the very early in their tenure as teammates and they still won. Players go to teams that they think can win and to play with great players. I heard how wonderful the culture was in San Antonio was when they had TD and Parker and Gino....... there are countless others..... it comes down to talent, having peak apex talent.
