Simmons can score he is scoring at 16 pts a night. Maybe you meant cant shoot a 3. The Rox system accomodates 1 dude who cant shoot 3s. Capela didnt shoot 3s and that wasnt exactly a problem now, was it? Simmons is 6'10 and can do offensively everything Capela could do. He can do even more since he can playmake and handle the ball. People love Aaron Gordon in the offseason well Simmons is AG on steroids. AG barely has a shot at only 30% and he is better off driving every play rather than shooting the 3.
people aren’t trying to analyze trading Harden for Aaron Gordon cause that’d be insanely dumb. To the extent people wanted him it was for like EG or Tucker and picks. I think it’s almost worse that Ben is a Capela. It one that does stuff with the ball. Means he needs usage.
??? People are saying he cant shoot if theres anybody who doesnt need the ball its him. Even if he gets it he is gonna give it back unless he gonna score with it in the paint.
nice. so whoever ben simmons plays for, that team is gonna be paying him $35M+/year to play hot potato in a halfcourt offense.
If you don't let him handle the ball, you are taking away 70% of his offensive game. So you want him to play the Capela role? I've posted this numerous times. Simmons is not just a bad 3pt shooter. He's a bad shooter, period. His fg% outside of 10 ft is 27%. So if it's not point blank, it's not likely going in. So yes, he is Capela who can dribble and pass. (Capela averaged 16 ppg in his best year with us.) If you don't let him dribble he is very limited. Capela is a much cheaper option.
That’s not our problem. Stone needs to do what’s best for the Rockets. If that includes hanging on to Harden this season because nobody wants to pony up, so be it.
Bingo. He can't function as a true perimeter threat because defenders will sag off of him and clog the paint. So he's only an offensive threat on the block or cutting to the basket, with the ball out of his hands. The way he scores versus his playmaking abilities nearly cancel out, thus why he's a frustrating fit and only averages 16 per game. Simmons may be smarter than Westbrook in the sense that he realizes his strength isn't shooting, but he has the same negative impact in that you don't have to guard him unless he's at the rim. Philly doesn't know how to use him and I don't know if anyone ever will. Certainly don't want us to be stuck with that conundrum.
These rubes just lack an imagination and obviously never even watched Simmons outside of a nationally televised game. Mentioning "Capela" was a mistake. I understand what you are trying to say but these other posters are just latching onto "Capela" without any real thought.
Ben isn't Capela..... I've never seen Capela get close to running a NBA offense. This is almost as ignorant as the Chuck Hayes comparisons. You do understand Simmons and Capela are the same height and one handles the ball and play makes like James Harden while the other is entirely reliant on someone setting up the offense for him?
Absolutely not. You people haven't watched Simmons and are just projecting Westbrooks play. Playmaking and scoring 16 pts on high efficiency cancel each other out? Get out of here. Philly doesn't know how to use Simmons and Embiid because they aren't a good fit, like how Harden and another ball dominant guard aren't good fits.
If Capel could dribble and pass he wouldn't be so cheap let's be real. How much did Giannis sign for again? I mean by your logic Giannis is just a Capela who can dribble and pass as well. Giannis% outside of 10 ft is only 32%.Sure that is 5% better than Simmons, but tbh both of this % are bad and both shouldn't be shooting with that kind of efficiency. You can't have Giannis who is obv one of the best players in the NBA but Simmons isn't half bad either. Your original post said Simmons is useless without the ball, that's something that applies to Herro not Simmons. Simmons can rebound, block and defend if he doesn't have the ball. He can also cut and "perform the Capela role" as you say if he doesn't have the ball. OTH Herro can't do any of those things at a high level, if he doesn't have the ball whether that is shooting a set shot or shaking and baking then he is useless, similar to Kuzma. Y'all are just focusing on the one thing Simmons lacks but ignoring everything else he does at a high level.
Yes, lol. Simmons is a better player than Capela, no doubt. But the NBA is a salary cap league. Give me Simmons over Rudy Gobert any day now, but Simmons will be making $30-$40 million annually for a while. So basically my point is... at that salary and usage, i need Ben to be able to shoot.
Well we have Wall so Simmons doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us either. You'd have to pair a true shooting guard next to Ben before you can explore options. I do think Ben and Wood are compatible...but Simmons and Westbrook have the same problem in that they would be HOF locks if they had ever developed a reliable jump shot, and without that they have elite skills but are difficult to rely on as a franchise player
It was just obvious you missed the Capela comparison. Why? For that salary usage usage you are getting an elite playmaker to run the offense and an elite defensive anchor. Compare what you are getting for John Wall's salary.
Well first of all WB is already a HOF lock even if he retired this second so you're wrong there. Secondly Wall is only here for the next 3 years, he is 30 and on the wrong side of 30 as well. You shouldn't look at him like he is a foundational piece cuz he is too old by the time Lebron and the Lakers have faded he will be old as well. Third WB isn't held back by his shooting, he is held back by his r****ded bball IQ, the same IQ the causes him to flex at Ricky Rubio when they down by 40 or w/e. 4rth, it is difficult to rely on Simmons as a franchise player but it is much more difficult to rely on Herro as a franchise player. We don't even know if the dude is gonna be healthy long term you realize he has plantar fascitis right? Herro as the 3rd option on the Heat got PF on his rookie year. He even had glute problems this preseason. LOL. If we ain't gettign Jaylen Brown Simmons is the next best opton. Others would be just too much of a ripoff.
Morey would take the best player in a package and figure the rest out because that's the most prudent plan. Either way, you are going to pair another star with Simmons or Herro or Brown or MPJ just like we tried to do with Harden. I just find Ben and Westbrook to be a superficial comparison. I don't really see why Simmons is difficult to rely on a franchise player, the blueprint is pretty straight forward. Maybe we've just gotten spoiled by Harden being able to do just about everything.
Passing and playmaking is called hot potato now? somebody call CrippleP3 and Lamelo man, apparently they're just hot potato passers now.
So y'all want to pay Simmons 35 million per year and he will end up going to LA if he improves his shot? Pass on Simmons, give me Brown at 20 over Simmons at 35. Or a 20 year old Herro
