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  1. Rudyc281

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    Ingram - herro
    Ball - Robinson
    Hart - nunn

    AD - Harden

    There it is everybody the AD deal package y’all been wanting.

    AD wasn’t traded for a “star” or “proven player” either
     
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  2. treyk3

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    Worst case on Simmons is that he’s a perennial all star with the biggest power broker in the NBA riding Tillman’s ass to improve everything. He’s literally a can’t miss risk. Championship first option? Maybe not but he’s an incredible secondary star. I’d take Draymond at 24 as a main piece in a Harden deal. That’s Ben’s floor.
     
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    BHannes2BHonest 2 SOLID FOR WEIRD AZZES

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    You know who would be a great return for this team in a Harden trade????





    James Mothaflippn Harden!
     
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    steph curry was a high lottery pick, stop believing that nonsense about people doubting him, he wasnt drafted 30th like jimmy butler
     
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    ingram and ball were top 2 picks and seen as a cant miss picks, herro and robinson meh
     
  6. treyk3

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    For the Simmons won’t shoot crowd. Here’s a fun stat from a 76ers fan who doesn’t want the team to trade him.
     
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    Huh? Many people wrote ingram off after his first year because he looked like ****.
    Ball was pretty much talked into the being the next star by Lavar Ball.
     
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    Simmons is probably the "safe" option here but i can see us biting our ass in 4 years with Herro being a star. Could also be the case that he's out of the NBA of course which won't happen with simmons.
     
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    Do u play 2k or something like how are u able to match players up like that. Are u telling me that
    Small Forward 6'7 Brandom Ingram is similar to shooting guard 6' 5 Herro

    1 round 2nd overall pick Lonzo ball (NBA All-rookie second team) similar to an undrafted Robinson?

    Like i get u like Herro, but the things u type to convince others this trade is similar to ADs trade is laughable.
     
  10. treyk3

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    ask yourself this.

    Would Philly trade Ben Simmons for Herro, Robinson and 2 FRP?

    I say no ****ing chance. Philly needs to add in Thybulle and a pick and just get this over with
     
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    Yeah, It was immediately clear that Lonzo Ball was all hype. And by the time they shipped Ingram they knew who he was too. (not that good.)
     
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    What does points per shot mean?
     
  13. treyk3

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    exactly what it says. How many points per each shot? Factors in his bad free throw, his inability to shoot threes. He’s the most efficient off that list and he can’t shoot. He’s unreal.
     
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    The Rockets wouldn't make that deal either. There would have to be more players and picks involved.
     
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    Now do number of shots and see which has more value.
    He might be efficient, mainly from limited ability and knowing strengths. But that also makes him predictable and a borderline liability offensively.
     
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    Its because he doesn't shoot unless its a layup, lol. Less shots + Only easy shots = High PPS. But does not equal superstar.
     
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    Iggy and Olynyk aren’t getting you more than Thybulle and a FRP. Riley doesn’t lose trades. Morey is soft for Harden and has historically overpaid if he’s desperate as we saw with Covington .
     
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    He moves off ball. He is an elite passer. He sets strong screens. There is more to offense than scoring. He’s incredible and doesn’t even need a shot. This isn’t Russ shooting everything and playing wild. Ben has a top 5 BBIQ. Even without the ball in his hand he makes stuff happens. He’s not ball dominant
     
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    I agree with all of those things, but that doesn’t make him a focal point on offense or even a threat on many levels. Which imo doesn’t make him a true number 1.
    Strong number 2 I could see.
    The way the game is going, if you can’t shoot you’re becoming a dinosaur.
     
  20. treyk3

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    no I don’t want him to be a first scoring option. Finding guys who can score or shoot is easy. Simmons has all time great numbers that are being ignored. He’s an elite defender and an underrated offensive threat who would pair perfectly with Wood


    https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/ben-simmons-stats-24th-birthday
     
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