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So it’s not Tilman. It’s been Harden all along.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Dec 16, 2020.

  1. J.R.

    J.R. Member

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    Whoa whoa whoa! :D

    These articles paining Harden in bad/negative light = hit pieces, falsehoods, trying to make him look bad
    These articles painting Tilman as “toxic” = 100% truth, gospel

    :D

    (As others said, it’s both/somewhere in the middle. Both are toxic.)
     
  2. daywalker02

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    He's never been painted in a good light though.
     
  3. ApacheWarrior

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    Nature of the beast.

    Show me a top 10 player of the NBA and I will show you the guy running the show.

    LeBron made the Cavs get Sebastian Telfair, Jamario Moon, A Jamison, Mo Williams, Varejo and others and then bailed saying the organization never brought him guys he wanted.

    If Michael Jordan didn’t want a player.....you were gone. You don’t think he went to Vegas in between games?
    Barkley would tell you differently.

    If Kobe didn’t want you.......you were gone. See MJ above.
     
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  4. Carl Herrera

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    Sure, Tilman.
     
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    Mj, Kobe, LeBron, Harden.

    One of those players is not like the others.
     
  6. danoman

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    So Tillman's son didn't want Russell Westbrook... It was Harden, we over paid because he wanted that.
     
  7. HorryForThree

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    I've actually been pretty pleased with Silas, Stone, and the FO moves this off-season.
     
  8. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    It's Tilman. Hamstring away from the title. Stop blindly eating up the propaganda. NEXT
     
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    This is really interesting. I think we can apply this to Harden and Westbrook's thinking...

     
  10. Nook

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  11. daywalker02

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    You can pull even more shenanigans winning championships.

    Requirement is winning ships.
     
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  12. TEXNIFICENT

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    Yep the all played with Hall of Famers in the their primes and went to the Finals. One of them decided to play in Houston and never played with another prime Hall of Famer again.
     
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  13. ApacheWarrior

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    LeBron didn’t win squat until he left the mess he created in Cleveland before going to Miami.

    Even at that LeBron has never won a title by himself......always top star or stars (plural) with him.

    Harden has never had that luxury.

    Harden forcing trade now to join KD/Kyrie is shades of that LeBron move. Both moving on from a mess
    team they created. Fair is fair. Be honest.
     
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    media conspiracy
     
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  15. Amel

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    I wouldnt blame it all on Harden, but Morrey has a lot to do with it, Tilman too...When you let the guy do whatever he wanted to do, you get to this point..
     
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    Stephen curry.
     
  18. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    One is great at basketball. One is bad at owning and has little-to-no-experience running a sports team. It almost doesn't even matter who is right vs wrong. One adds value, the other does not.

    This is not Joe's Crab Shack or a sleazy trailer park casino.
     
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  19. ApacheWarrior

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    You don’t think Curry dictates much of what goes on in Golden State?

    Hampton 5 had nothing to do with him? Just Klay and Dray went uhh?

    Losing Harrison Barnes, Bogut, Iggy, Livingston had nothing to do with Curry? Sure keep thinking that.
     
  20. xtruroyaltyx

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    Thats BS... but still, your point was that Harden had control because he is a top player.
    But then don't hold him accountable for the players he advocated for bringing in. Laughable.

    I guess when you see a guy as a hero they can do no wrong.
     
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