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Source: John Wall don't feel valued or respected by Harden

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Eddie Cecco, Dec 16, 2020.

  1. Nook

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    The team can do that, but they won't.

    Everyone falls into the camp of piling on Harden or piling on the Rockets.

    The truth like most divorces is in the middle.

    James Harden didn't come to camp because he felt it would pressure the Rockets to trade him.

    However, Harden could have still gone to camp or at least not flaunted that he was having a great time flaunting COVID protocol.

    Harden could have spoken to the media when he appeared at camp or even just given a general statement.

    Now I am sure he would say him discussing it with the media wouldn't lead to anything constructive.

    The Rockets organization also has been immature about this, with all these hit stories released and the GM not making any statements, letting his coach and players answer questions.

    The Rockets organization has leaked about how Harden will likely be here all season, that isn't going to happen, Harden will be complaining and will likely act out if they don't trade him as it is the only leverage that he has.

    Also Harden "acted out" to show the Rockets that he would if he wasn't dealt.... it only made Harden look bad.... the Rockets organization leaks all these stories to make Harden and Morey and MDA look bad, and all it has done is make the Rockets organization look poorly.

    It has been handled poorly all along.
     
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  2. Nook

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    I will take the unknown over the known when the known quantity is garbage.
     
  3. icewill36

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    whats known is WB is a first ballot HOF. saying he "sucks" just shows your bias
     
  4. YOLO

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    @icewill36 talking about someone's %'s when his bff is out here shooting in the 20s. just sad
     
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    Everyone involved looks bad imo.
     
  6. DatRocketFan

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    There's been more Harden haters pretending to be rockets fans during this time of conflict.

    Who the fk celebrates getting rid of a generational talent. Harden has issue, but a lot of posters acting like he was a bum who took up space on the bench instead of being a beast of a player. quite ungrateful.

    Every game thread, u will see the usual hater posting the same sht about harden, when he time and time again carries the Rockets. Now they are happily posting on every Harden hit threads, disgusting.

    Before Harden era, sans the two championship its been depressing as fk, never good enough to win it all, but not shtty enough to tank. Team play? mid range shots?

    If harden gets traded so be it, but im not gonna fking celebrate our team getting shttier because of it.

    Don't act like player loyalty is so important as a rockets fan, and use it as a reason to hate on harden we been roster revamping for years.

    What is currently happening sucks, I do hope we find a good trade haul and james harden win a ring somewhere else.

    Honestly if we are trading harden, might as well start rebuilding.
     
  7. s3ts

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    Nailed it. This is exactly my sentiment.
     
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  8. Nook

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    I agree.

    Also the Rockets are going to be in for some tough times for at least a handful of years.
     
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  9. Pandaemonaeon

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    Some people seem to value aesthetics over results and would tolerate mediocrity so long as we play "beautiful/right" basketball. Look at the love for the Adelman era despite the fact that he never took us any further than JVG did and Rick Ruler being just as prone to his share of favoritism, stubbornness, and mind numbing decisions.
     
  10. Deuce

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    On John Wall's twitter, on Monday, the 14th he liked this post.

     
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  11. riko

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    Tillman would rather lose harden for less value then pass up a chance to send a parting shot with these fake leaks.He just can’t help himself
     
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  12. DatRocketFan

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    My only hope as Houston fan, is that the eventual trade won't be as disgusting as the Hopkins trade.

    One sht trade was bad enough, if the Rockets fk up the Harden trade. We gonna b the laughing stock for years to come.
     
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  13. SKYGODZ187

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    What were at is this.

    Its a devorice

    Harden Rockets had good times 8yrs.

    Rockets got alittle fatter and Harden wants the thin supermodel rapper or with ever he wants.


    So Harden says its time.
    Rockets are trying Marriage therapy.
    Couples therapy mediation what ever it takes to try and Make them the Supermodel again.

    Harden done gone off and cheated.

    Rockets are the broken Spouse who thinks they can't do any better.
    So gives into everything.

    Harden puts the strippers and Rappers in Rockets face.
    Basically F U im done with you.

    When is it enough?

    Its time for the Rockets to try for some Supermodels.

    Take them selves off the Cross build a bridge and gets tha F over it.

    Pull that band aide and get some chemistry.
    Tucker, Harden and Gordon have to go.
    Its time for some Vettes to pull in and try and replace the Lambo. There fast enough just not all the catchy to the Rich peeps.
    You never know you may have a Bugatti.

    Js
    Do it today or suffer and drive a Ford Focus off a cliff
     
  14. csc177

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    Harden looks worse IMO.
     
  15. riko

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    I suspect a trade is nearing because if they actually were still trying to raise his value this is not the right course. This is to get the fans for a less then stellar return
     
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    We gotta trade him soon. But I also feel we gotta wait for the best package. I want Simmons but like Morey hasn’t reached the point to offer him yet
     
  17. SKYGODZ187

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    This is Harden trying to lower his value to get where he wants.

    Its the havoc you cause to lower your price to go where u want.

    Everyone keeps saying the price is to high.
    Well look at what your getting.
    Giannis helped us out.
    Know teams are scrambling
     
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    Simmons, Thybulle, Maxey 1 FRP for PJ Tucker and Harden.

    It's not getting the Rockets fan ready for a less than stellar return, it's getting fans ready for him to be gone in general. Anything the team gets for Harden is lesser value than Harden. No trade will be made now that isn't at least what I posted above. If I'm wrong then the team absolutely ****ing botched this.

    They want Simmons + 3 FRP. The Sixers probably want Simmons + 2 FRP. The Rockets counter by adding PJ but still require the picks. Two of the picks are replaced by Thybulle and Maxey. The third pick remains.

    Bro, your avatar is growing. It's like you are getting ready for a weight lifting competition and your progress is the avatar.


    Woj was on air yesterday and basically said Philadelphia was the partner and no longer used the line of Simmons is not on the table. A boiling point is definitely near.
     
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  19. riko

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    Nope this has Tillman and spitefully obvious nature written all over it
     
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  20. Newlin

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    At least Wall is making millions of dollars. A lot of people work in jobs where they feel disrespected, but make minimum wage. Like the people who work at joe's crab shack, or Claim Jumper.
     

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