we could use bens size and defense more, but I think Hero is going to be a helluva scorer in his prime and leaning toward him now. he is clutch as hell also. one thing about ben is you cant even put the ball in his hands at the end of a game because he cant shoot FTs.
Yes Bens potential is off the charts but I’m alittle concerned he hasn’t shown any signs of killer instinct down the stretch. On the flip side Herro looks like he’s drawn to the big moments. And he’s very young! Dear lord
A 2nd year Rondo isn't a "prime" Rondo. I sincerely hoped you could figure that out on your own, but color me unsurprised. Also, you really need to calm down with the disrespect. You've been wrong in every disagreement we've ever had dating back to PJ Tucker being the "ultimate Lakers killer". Literally every single argument. At first, your mixture of ignorance and arrogance was amusing. Now, it's just sad. For your sake, I hope you've just been trolling me. Because if your online persona is a representation of your true self, then I pity you.
LOL So now YOU decide the parameters of Rondo's prime? Why not let his accomplishments speak for itself? Rondo was drafted in 2006 and was starting PG on Celtics 2008 championship team as well as 2010 Finals team. Rondo won ROY in 2007. Rondo was All Defense in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 seasons and earned his 1st of 4 All Star nods on 2010-2013. Rondo led NBA in steals in 2010. Rondo also was assists leader in 2012, 2013 and 2016. Rondo was in his prime during this 8 year period from 2008 to 2016. This is why I cant take any of your posts seriously.
actually I’ve had some great back and forth with fans here on clutch, great place. Love it here and I’ll be here awhile. Thanks. Simmons is 24, his playoffs failures have to do with youth, terrible roster construction and his running mate has been terribly conditioned as well for some of these runs, I’d know we’ve Eliminated them a few times. simmons doesn’t get a pass either but that comes with time. U wanna say Simmons is derozan and disregard the fact that there’s a 7 year age gap. What was demar doing at 22, 22? Lastly for someone telling me that I should stick to the Celtics while simultaneously telling me DD and Simmons are similiar players it’s very ironic. again, Simmons rebounds, defends and is a playmaker who can elevate his teammates and when surrounded by shooting can be deadly even if he’s not scoring. DD is a 1 dimensional scorer, who doesn’t defend and outside of that doesn’t do much else. They are similiar if you’re barometer is they both play basketball. so I’ll do the opposite of you telling me to stick to my team.....I’ll encourage u to watch MORE basketball bc you’re comparisons are clueless and having 30k posts on a forum doesn’t give u knowledge.
Why would it matter? Because your turning down the best asset for a chance to clean your books. U say u have a good young coach ( u do) and don’t trust him to be able to make Simmons and wall work? Simmons can play the 4 in a line up with woods at 5 who can stretch the court out to the 3 point and Simmons will have free reign to get into the paint where he can be deadly and should be. Simmons could play 5. Wall could play 2 at times. U could stagger line ups- there several ways to do it and yes wall can absolutely build up his value again. He’s looked good so far in pre season and u can’t do victory laps yet the returns are promising. U say Simmons isn’t a gnerational talent? Ok....and he needs to be generational? Or does he need to be the best return in a harden deal? Herro is generational? Herro is all nba? Herro would be all nba defense? Herro is a great back up plan if no Simmons. Simmons is still a very good player. U don’t say well we had to take a bad contract back in wall in the RW trade so now we need to take a player with less upside because they are cheaper. you speak in contradictions saying that u have a cheap owner, need to rebuild and have bad contracts yet simultaneously saying you’ll be a free agent draw- it’s both? After this season wall has 2 years left....if he plays himself into a trade u flip him next offseason, the following year he’s an expiring which he will def be moveable. If harden wasn’t available and Philly said hey were shopping Ben Simmons don’t u think the return for him would be better than a 31 year old harden who needs a max at 33? If u r so worried about asset management why not get Simmons and u could always shop him around for multiple picks and players in your scenario (they wouldn’t but still I’m making a point). lastly u can take shots at my team all u want, I’m pretty happy where we are and tbh I’ve had great and cordial back and forth with many rockets fans here and since this is a rockets discussion Id like to keep it on topic and not discuss Boston but I appreciate them living rent free in your head
LBJ has a mean streak, a more powerful presence than Simmons but yeah with a jumper he would be LBJ 2x lite.
It's very rare for a player's prime to start in his 2nd year. Rondo clearly doesn't fit the bill. Who cares that he started on that Celtics championship team? That team featured a 30 year old Paul Pierce, 31 year old Kevin Garnett, and 32 year old Ray Allen. Rondo was the worst player in their starting lineup. Out of curiosity, are you just guessing at things now? Because why wouldn't you guess "Brandon Roy"? "ROY" is literally his last name. This is interesting. You listed his achievements that started in 2009 and then tried to use that as proof that his prime began in 2008. Can you explain that logic?
Dude I never said his inside game resembles Shaq's, WTF are you talking about? Stop trying to backtrack from your ludicrous statement that he has a post game like Shaq and handles like Magic. You can't come back from that
https://www.si.com/nba/2020/12/14/top-100-nba-players-2021-daily-cover#section_3 21. Ben Simmons, Philadelphia 76ers Sneer at Simmons’s three-point phobia if you wish, but Philadelphia’s point guard remains one of the game’s most electric guards. Simmons is an absolute force in transition, bullying his way to the rim with a combination of size and speed unmatched throughout the league. The LSU product thrives off of turnovers, and he increasingly leans on his athletic gifts to generate free points for Philadelphia. Simmons won the steals title last season en route to his first All-Defense selection. He paired his ball-hawking skills with improved rotational awareness, anchoring Philadelphia’s defense. For all his half-court shortcomings, Simmons’s transition prowess and defensive dominance makes him one of the Eastern Conference’s most valuable players. Simmons sports the athletic profile to be a top-10 player. But the flaws in his game grow increasingly frustrating by the season. It’s not just that Simmons is a poor shooter. It’s that he’s an unwilling one. Philadelphia’s point guard attempted just seven threes in 2019–20. He attempted 16 midrange jumpers. Perhaps Simmons’s stylistic deficiencies would be acceptable if he were flanked by a cadre of shooters, but given his big-man costar, the lack of any discernible jumper can be downright untenable. Even extending his range past the free-throw line would do wonders for Philadelphia, further unlocking the two-man game between Simmons and Embiid. Perhaps Simmons will show some growth in 2020-21. If not, he’ll remain a tantalizing, yet frustrating talent on the fringe of the All-NBA discussion.
Hmm, guess I need to go read some. Was it potential or current? Neither are accurate imo but just trying to see what was said.
Wait wut? Are you forgetting that they traded him for Leonard? You trying to act like it was freakin salary dump?
How the hell is Simmons a legit franchise player? The last time I looked getting 3rd team all NBA and a couple of all star bids is not a superstar or Franchise player. If he was a franchise player he would not even be up for discussion considering how young he is.
Simmons attempted only seven threes last year? And people want to put him on a team that relies on threes? Simons is not a fit for this offense. He might be a good point guard but he’s not gonna play well along side Wall.
