probably one of the stupidest reasons why anyone is good or bad I've seen on this board. Did you really mention genetics with height and wingspan as why he won't be good. Do you realize every single year guys who are off the charts in genetics w tremendous length and height try to get into the league but absolutely suck at the actual game. Those genetics don't make or break a player. that's just dumb. Funny how a 6'5 white guy with short arms and limited athleticism was killing guys like smart who happen to be one of the best defenders this league has to offer. And let alone being 20 year old kid, let that sink in. This goes back to me saying a lot of yall are trying to put this guy in some box just because that's what you're mind has been trained to do and can't process much outside of that. Ben simmons has apparently reached some hierarchy in the nba that's impossible to reach now. stop it. Dude is a fringe all star in the east with no jumpshot. You could absolutely say if he was in the west he wouldn't sniff being an all star in any of the past 2 seasons, certainly not ahead of the elite guards depth in the west
The Sixers as an organization sucks. And with Ben being a #1 pick, people thought it was best for him to develop, and that's how they went with it, giving him the rock and telling him to develop that way. With all of that development, 28% on 0.1 3PAs this past season, and he's already earning a 30-40 mil / year contract for the next 5 years. Like the only reason he's going to learn how to shoot is if he really wants to. People are talking like he's Dray/Lebron, but those guys can hit shots within the first/second season of being in the league.
I never called him a stud. Others do. But he's a rookie, on a Finals-level team in the East. There aren't many NBA players who can contribute to a winning effort in their rookie year. There's definitely some praise to give for it.
I’m not one of those that thinks Tyler Herro is a superstar but nothing about his game says not athletic. In fact his physical testing is very similar to Simmons in vertical, speed and agility. Simmons is not an overly long player for his height. 6’10 with 7’ wingspan. Out of the two, the bigger one is more impressive but I wouldn’t say a big discrepancy in athleticism.
People who won the genetic lottery aren't guaranteed to be good in the NBA. It takes more than that to be good. Its also work ethic, and good coaching. But genetic is the #1 most important factor when it comes to becoming a star in the NBA. Height, mobility, wingspan, explosiveness are things you cant learn and cant overcome. Tell me in the last 20 years in the nba, how many 6'5ish white guy with short arms and limited athleticism became an All star as a shooting guard?
you don't have to consider him a stud to be able to just recognize there's tremendous upside there and what he did in his first year as a 20 year old kis is absolutely something to be praised about. There's nothing wrong with that. This isn't an all or nothing discussion like some of these other folks are making it to be
I don’t disagree this isn’t a fair point or legitimate concern. Plus, it has to be really awkward for Rockets fans, accustomed to having the best halfcourt scorer in the league, to go from that to a guy that gets most of his points in transition or in other areas you mentioned. But we’re probably not going to get a bonafide alpha or #1 scorer back in any Harden trade. You have to accept the situation for what it is, and find the best fit. Given his age and upside, I have a hard time imagining a better return for Harden than a package centered around Simmons.
People who hated seeing the lack of dynamic, or predictable offensive system we had isn't putting the same level of scrutiny for Ben Simmons on a half-court offense. Watch any other top-20 player highlights, and try to predict what they do next in the next highlight, you'll almost never guess it. Ben Simmons? Dunk/layup on a drive, passing, defensive plays. No doubt, they're nice, it's just predictable.
oh it's the white thing. it's race now. Even more stupid. actually pretty ignorant and you're still on formal positions. newflash those have been out the window several years ago Simmons genetics are apparently so great that he gets injured all the time. Awesome genetics he has there. god's gift this guys genetics are also just off the charts.
Coaching looks great, the front office just sucks at managing the roster, and I imagine that's why they finally said they need Morey.
Max vertical (metric for explosiveness) and lateral agility are off the charts different. Trying to say both are of similar athleticism and/or length is blatantly disingenuous.
I mean... his dad was generally regarded as one of the more pure shooters of his era, so yes, he got some good genetics.
yeah being blessed 6'3 and soaking wet 190 lbs. just off the charts. rare for nba players to have those kinds of attributes I didn't know people are naturally born being able to shoot rather than putting in the actual work. People should keep that in mind next time babies are born
