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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets13champs, Dec 6, 2020.

  1. Kevooooo

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    How dare you doubt Green's ability to contribute!
     
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  2. CXbby

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    Westbrook for two live knees is addition by subtraction. No guarantees where Wall will be at but from off season footage at least it looks like he can walk and run so already ahead there. Wood is the second best player, behind cp3, that Harden has played with through all his time in Houston. Wood is an all star level player.
     
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  3. D-rock

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    I'm optimistic about Wood too but you are talking in absolutes right now.

    And I'm rooting for Wall too but jeez, reality tells me that Westbrook was a 9 time All Star and MVP while Wall has only been 3rd team All Star ONCE in his decade in NBA.

    Playing in the East no less.
     
  4. CXbby

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    So were the TV idiots.
     
  5. D-rock

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    Wood has never been an All Star or even All Defense like RoCo.

    Do you see where the difference lies?

    TF was either lying or exaggerating his ass off.
     
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    The market will dictate that, not Cousins. IF(and that's a big IF), Cousins has a good year he can certainly want or think he deserves more but the reality is he and his agent will have to weigh out if it's in Boogies best interest to take less money for the guarantee of a longer contract(3-4 years) or try to ask for a little more money on a short deal to see if he can squeeze one more large-ish(def not max) multi-year deal.

    Given he is 30, is recovering from two ACL tears, and had attitude issues even when he was healthy, no one is looking at him as a foundational piece anymore and even further, I'm not even sure if he can be a starter anymore at this point so maybe a MLE for 3 years with a player option on the 4th is the best case scenario for him. Even if he has a good per minute year on reduced minutes - he is still a question mark unless he can prove he can be a solid starter(doesn't even have to be an all star). That's the only way he is going to make anything over the MLE - he has to prove he can be a starter and the odds are heavily stacked against him given a shortened season, probably some minutes restrictions to start, AND he will need to play his way back into live game shape, etc.
     
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    i have to say that roco is a very limited player offensively. i mean it's good that he knows those limits and does well at sticking to his strength (shooting open 3's). but he is nowhere on the level of wood in terms of finishing at the rim, putting the ball on the floor, converting in transition, PnR, PnP, etc, etc. and he will never average 25/10 for any stretch of his career. wood is very likely not going to be the helpside defender for us that roco was, but his interior presence will be an overall upgrade imo
     
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    I'm not saying Wood is NOT going to be good player for Rockets but that was a swap rather than an improved roster.

    And Wall for Westbrook is playing the lottery. Same with the Boogie NG vet min signing.

    TF is selling everyone a bill of goods and ESPN is finally calling him out.

    Losing Jeff Green, Austin Rivers and RoCo is also significant because those roles were not really replaced either.
     
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    The difference is that you could have said the same thing and called Harden a bench player when we traded for him and gave him the max. Wood is legit to anyone with eyes.
     
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    LOL
     
  11. CXbby

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    I forgot about Roco, true that was a loss. We also got 3 first round picks between that trade and the Westbrook trade though. 3 picks that can be used to upgrade the team if Harden stays or rebuild with if he leaves.

    Media dumbasses trying their hardest to paint the Houston situation as a dumpster fire when low key they have actually done a terrific job so far this off-season covering the bases for whether Harden stays or leaves.

    Tilman was the one that screwed everything up in the first place by pushing that CP3 /Westbrook trade through so I'm no fan. But I'm not going to twist the facts and distort reality like these media folks love to do just to spite everything he says either.
     
  12. CXbby

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    Also the job Stone has done so far makes me realize how overrated Morey was.
     
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  13. CXbby

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    Saying Wood has never been an allstar(has Roco?) is just like saying Harden has never been a starter in 2012. Harden was a superstar if you followed the right numbers. Wood is an all star if you follow those same numbers. Or watched them play.
     
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    "I said hello to him" ....


    Does anyone else feel like , listening to Silas that he's not going to waste energy on this situation ? If that's the case , its pretty telling.


    According to reports , Harden was part of the hiring process and signed off on the choice of Silas. If that's the case , what exactly triggered Harden's demands as the franchise has catered to his every desire from CP3 to Westbrook , Covington/Capela and then supposedly Wall?

    If he signed off on Silas , could MDA's exit really be part of it ?
    Was it Morey's exit ?
    Is it Tilman being cheap or something else ?
     
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    We did I agree, Unfortunately Westbrook couldn't hold up to his end' not having a Center was just stupid.. I'm starting to think this is more about avoiding the West if anything. This may or may not be a big deal, but he's guaranteed to be an All-Star starter in the East. He will no longer be an All Star starter in the West, with Luca and Curry fanbases..
     
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    if we were in a timeline where we had kept Roco and still managed to sign Wood, then this team would really be something...all Wall would have to do is be like 80% of what he used to be and the team would easily be 2nd best in the West

    Wall
    Harden
    Roco
    PJ
    Wood

    lemme stop daydreaming
     
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    I feel this is premature on your end.

    Morey was not perfect, but he did very well as a GM. Doesn't mean that all his moves were slam dunk, plenty to criticize him about, but I rather have Morey than Stone at this moment. Doesn't mean I don't think Stone can be a successful GM.
     
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    i see it more like an assclown in amin elhassan doesn't know bball, but knows westbrook is a much bigger name than wall -- so now wizards are going to be grrreat! :D
     
  20. pippendagimp

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    @Nook

    i've been wondering exactly the same thing. all of a sudden both russ and harden decided it was exit time, so what exactly was the trigger for this? whole sports world already knew tilbitch was all about LTS. these guys signed off on the new coach. it's truly puzzling
     
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