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Trump's coronavirus response

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Two Sandwiches, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    % is teh hard math
     
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    Not saying the COVID-19 in Germany isn't getting worse recently but rather pointing out the inaccurate and hypocritical basis of trump's asinine tweet. Or do you think Germany's COVID-19 problem is worse that the United States?
     
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    I said recently in my original post. I'm not sure what we are arguing about exactly
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You have succinctly just described the entirety of the Internet.....kudos
     
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    I lived in Germany around this time and this is the month to get your social contact in before everything turns white, cloudy and barren for a good 3 months.

    They've been good citizens since April so I can see why they're slipping.
     
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  6. Amiga

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    Border Wall or Covid-19 vaccine? Tough choice!


    Trump Spent $15 Billion On Border Wall But Skimped On Vaccines (forbes.com)

    The Trump administration spent $15 billion on a border wall but decided against spending money to ensure a larger supply of vaccines would be available to protect millions of Americans from Covid-19, the respiratory illness that has killed nearly 300,000 people in the United States. The New York Times reported the Trump administration declined repeated offers from Pfizer to lock in hundreds of millions of additional vaccines for Americans. Pfizer board member and former Food and Drug Administration chief Scott Gottlieb confirmed the story. At the same time, the Trump administration moved forward at breakneck speed to buy land and pay contractors to build a southern border wall that analysts view as unlikely to reduce illegal immigration or save any American lives.

    “Before Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine was proved highly successful in clinical trials last month, the company offered the Trump administration the chance to lock in supplies beyond the 100 million doses the pharmaceutical maker agreed to sell the government as part of a $1.95 billion deal months ago,” reported the New York Times. “But the administration, according to people familiar with the talks, never made the deal, a choice that now raises questions about whether the United States allowed other countries to take its place in line.”

    The decision not to pay for additional vaccines at a crucial time has prompted criticism from even some of the Trump administration’s biggest supporters. “This is an absolute debacle,” according to conservative columnist Marc Thiessen. “What utter incompetence that will lead to lost lives. How did the Trump administration allow the EU to order 200M doses of Pfizer vaccine while the US ordered only 100M – and turned down the chance to order more?”

    “The government was in July given the option to request 100 million to 500 million additional doses,” according to the New York Times. “But despite repeated warnings from Pfizer officials that demand could vastly outstrip supply and amid urges to pre-order more doses, the Trump administration turned down the offer, according to several people familiar with the discussions.”

    Scott Gottlieb, who many conservatives have turned to for medical guidance during the coronavirus pandemic, confirmed the New York Times report. “Pfizer did offer an additional allotment coming out of that plan, basically the second quarter allotment, to the United States government multiple times – and as recently as after the interim data came out and we knew this vaccine looked to be effective,” Gottlieb said during an interview with CNBC.

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    After all, what would be worrisome about large party gatherings inside the white house?

     
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    Pandemic fatigue is a b**** and Trump just has to rub it in. F*ckin turd of a man.
     
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    https://www.axios.com/pfizer-vaccin...ieb-161b9da7-d81b-40c4-8689-5a800090c91a.html

    They excuse this by saying they have 5 more vaccine developers to buy from and yet you see the following statement:

    "Pfizer is now negotiating with the Trump administration to provide more vaccine doses, but the company cannot guarantee that it will deliver more than the initial 100 million before the summer, per the NYT."

    Why negotiate for more with so many other vaccine options?
    Oh right... it's cause people unexpectedly still care about Covid-19 even after the election and want to beat it ASAP.

    If Mexico gets vaccines first, I may just have to climb the 15 billion dollar wall and pay $20 out of pocket...


    edit: per this article they spent 4 billion on the monoclonal cocktail at $1,500 a pop that Trump used and that was given to Rudy and the rest of that mask hating cohort. Weird spending decisions to say the least.
     
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  11. Xerobull

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    This is the doing of a psychopath.
    300,000 dead is right around the corner.

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    They disgust me.
     
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    The next phase of the trump incompetence driving up more COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations and deaths... the distribution of COVID vaccine is shaping up as another Donald Trump-Jared Kushner managerial disaster.

    'Kind Of A Chess Game': For States, Distributing COVID-19 Vaccine Poses Myriad Hurdles
    https://www.npr.org/2020/12/09/9446...tributing-a-covid-vaccine-poses-myriad-hurdle
     
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    I'd be interested in knowing how many of these Covid cases now are Trump supporters. I know lots of mask wearing, no social distancing, people but I would think their numbers would be lower.

    Being vulnerable in a nursing home, care center, hospital, etc.. is another factor nobody can control obviously. Then you have the risk if you are around other family members or friends who are living it up mask free in their personal life, bar hopping, eating indoors, socializing, and so on.

    My point is just that I would think a huge percentage of the numbers would be Trump Supporters. The no mask, no social distancing bar hopping people. That, and those wining and dining indoors, flying, or just taking risks, being around people indoors eating, drinking, and without masks. I would guess most of those types are Trumpers too though.
     
  17. NewRoxFan

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    So corrupt...

     
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    They put all their bet into a vaccine this year. Will be available before election day. For that gamble, you would think at least they have the funding available to execute on the bet. The level of incompetent of this admin is mind numbing.
     
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    trump will attack anyone in order to deflect blame from his own incompetence and dishonesty in the handling of COVDI19 that resulted in hundreds of thousands of American deaths.,..

     
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    My 76 year-old heart trouble father has Covid. No way I'll get to visit him.
     
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