1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Harden open to being traded to contenders

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tristan_fiore, Dec 8, 2020.

  1. HP3

    HP3 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2018
    Messages:
    24,365
    Likes Received:
    33,860
    LOL you are a moron if you think the Nuggets wouldnt do a straight swap for Harden for MPJ ...like a complete idiot. But youve proven that time and time again how little you know about basketball.
     
    D-rock likes this.
  2. D-rock

    D-rock Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    40,743
    Likes Received:
    64,232
    And yet hes still a 2 time All Star in 3 seasons. NBA ROY and NBA All Defense Team.

    That's impressive for one so limited.

    And a 23 year old All Star on 5 year 30M per is an amazing contract.
     
    sammy likes this.
  3. Boston84

    Boston84 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2020
    Messages:
    568
    Likes Received:
    897
    I meant in your trade package with hopes to trade for klay down the road. I think that’s way to be of a risk when u already have a player in wall where u are gambling on health. Sure, wiseman could be great, he could be a bust and theoretically yes everything is a risk- but there’s calculated risks and I think taking back injured players w hopes to flip later is too big a risk.

    u need a “sure thing” quote un quote or a young player whose proven w great upside
     
  4. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    52,297
    Likes Received:
    143,888
    I’m just preparing myself to be disappointed in whatever the ultimate outcome of a Harden trade is

    Even if we do get Simmons, do I think Klutch Sports will want him in Houston long term? Nope. He will wait a few years and start planning his exit strategy.
     
  5. Asian Sensation

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 1999
    Messages:
    18,257
    Likes Received:
    7,360
    When did I say MPJ dipshit.
     
  6. finsraider

    finsraider Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,924
    Likes Received:
    4,984
    no, I don’t think that plays a factor. That deal was just trying something different and getting a pick. His fit with Simmons is irrelevant in my book.

    if you make the Simmons trade, you aren’t trying to compete this year...you’re trying to compete in 3. Playoffs yes, but not compete. By then, Wall is an expiring and can be combined with our picks for another star.
     
    Boston84 likes this.
  7. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,432
    Likes Received:
    13,390
    holy ****. You’d trade Harden straight up (salaries aside) for MPJ?

    lol
     
    tc0330 and Patience like this.
  8. RHU525

    RHU525 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Messages:
    5,754
    Likes Received:
    8,067
    If rockets had soo much talent how come last year they picked Jeff Green off the street after he was cut over a month ago and no one would sign him only for him to become our second best player.
     
    fckbandwagons likes this.
  9. lionaire

    lionaire Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    5,955
    Likes Received:
    7,788
    hear me out...
    [​IMG]
     
    tc0330 likes this.
  10. TimDuncanDonaut

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    15,239
    Likes Received:
    36,376
    He can attack the hoop and has some defense. I'll give him that. A poorer, shorter (height / wingspan) version of Giannis. But at least Giannis tries (a little on 3's).

    Simmons low FT% worries me. If he's a point forward, and the system goes through him primary ball handler, opposing teams can literally just hack-a-ben at end of games. When games are close and coach can't play the guy that you build your system around; you're in trouble. Simmons also depends on his athleticism, which he has (for now). He's coming off an injury, which even like guys like Klay can easily start be a repeat thing.

    Harden has skill ball, relies less on athleticism, his game still work as he gets older. Getting Simmons for Harden is like selling a house at 70% off. If Simmon's contract was cheaper but it's not.
     
    fckbandwagons and D-rock like this.
  11. Patience

    Patience Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    8,217
    Likes Received:
    10,569
    I guess he would have traded Dream straight up for Harold Miner then, forget Rony Seikaly and Grant Long.
     
    D-rock and JayZ750 like this.
  12. HoustonCRT

    HoustonCRT Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2014
    Messages:
    1,145
    Likes Received:
    2,925
    Why would you do this to us?
     
    Erbnwarfare, Vivi, DVauthrin and 6 others like this.
  13. Patience

    Patience Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2002
    Messages:
    8,217
    Likes Received:
    10,569
    Wow, you managed to make Denver and LA much better while ****ing the Rockets. Great trade.
     
    sammy, lionaire and D-rock like this.
  14. Boston84

    Boston84 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2020
    Messages:
    568
    Likes Received:
    897
    I figured as much and it makes sense but u need to try to contend w Simmons right away imo otherwise rich Paul and klutch will start b****ing and moaning.

    but get Simmons worry ab the rest
     
    Erbnwarfare, finsraider and D-rock like this.
  15. D-rock

    D-rock Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    40,743
    Likes Received:
    64,232
    Wall is temporary player in a rebuild.

    Already 30.

    Feel same about EGo, who is older and just as injury prone.
     
    Rudyc281 and Boston84 like this.
  16. ashleyem

    ashleyem Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2009
    Messages:
    6,136
    Likes Received:
    8,436
    Denver: Murray + MPJ + Bol Bol + 1RP
    Philly: Simmons + Thybulle + Curry + 1RP
    LAC: PG13 + 1RP
    Boston: Brown + Smart + Edwards + Nesmith + 1RP
    Brooklyn: Whoever + 4 x unprotected FRP
    GS: Klay + Wiseman + Oubre
     
    Rudyc281, JayZ750 and Boston84 like this.
  17. HP3

    HP3 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2018
    Messages:
    24,365
    Likes Received:
    33,860
    No I said its stupid FOR DENVER NOT TO DO THAT.
     
  18. HP3

    HP3 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2018
    Messages:
    24,365
    Likes Received:
    33,860
    Bro, read what I said, I would never trade Harden straight up for MPJ
     
    Patience and D-rock like this.
  19. D-rock

    D-rock Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    40,743
    Likes Received:
    64,232
    He's 23!!!!

    He still has time to grow his skills. Shooting is the easiest skill to improve in pros.

    And in meantime, he can keep making All Star and All Defense teams while keeping us in playoffs.

    And selling house at 70% of value is better than selling at 40% of value.

    There is no other trade that includes a return player as talented and as successful.
     
  20. tc0330

    tc0330 Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2016
    Messages:
    1,731
    Likes Received:
    1,908
    sign me tf up
     
    Rudyc281 likes this.

Share This Page