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COVID-19 (coronavirus disease)/SARS-CoV-2 virus

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by tinman, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. robbie380

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    Fine with me. Let's hope that the people that need it actually take it. I can't say I'm a fan of the initial vaccination plan as it stands. I think all of the available initial vaccines should go to the elderly. It's the fastest way to cut deaths and hospital capacity issues. Giving nearly 90% of the initial vaccine doses to healthcare workers is a nice gesture but it doesn't make much sense.

    Looks like that Astrazeneca vaccine data has been confirmed and should get authorization soon. If anything that should be used on only younger groups and I believe we are relying that to be a large chunk of our vaccine dose portfolio.
     
  2. Roscoe Arbuckle

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    "excess deaths" is not a statistic I care about. Total death rate is what is the issue.
     
  3. Duncan McDonuts

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    The rollout is for nursing homes and healthcare workers first.
     
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    What's your definition of total death rate?
     
  5. CometsWin

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    Did they cite any reasons?
     
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    J&J's vaccine is also one to look out for since theirs apparently can be stored at more "normal" freezer/fridge temps and only requires 1 dose the last I recall. They also have manufacturing ramped up to produce something on the order of a billion doses by next year.
     
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    I would guess it's because they don't want to be "first in line" or "guinea pigs". That and I'm sure some get talked into an opinion by others. Either case is probably understandable.
     
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    Not sure. It's second hand info. Most of my peers with doctorate degrees trust the science behind the vaccine and are lining up to get it.
     
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    You realize your "graph" is showing predicted deaths. Give me the actual total death number YTD.
     
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    I'll say this. The one time I took a flu vaccine I got the flu. I almost never get it otherwise. My mom does get it every year and every year she gets the flu.

    I'm fine with people taking the vaccine if it gives them peace of mind, but I have no intention of doing it.
     
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    2020 Total US deaths. The one thing that is undebatable. Please find me that number...
     
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    Everyone needs to get this vaccine for the safety of society. COVID is highly contagious. If the majority of the US opts out of the vaccine, we will never have herd immunity until everyone has contracted the virus. Getting the vaccine is a social responsibility.
     
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    Highly contagious? Yes, which is why the death percentages are nearing flu-like levels, and that's with CDC numbers which are appearing to be exaggerated.
     
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    It’s only happened a couple hundred thousand times now.
     
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    There’s no concern about the mRNA vaccine vs the traditional vaccine?
     
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    Yup. I'm not a fan of it. There are about 22.5 million people over 75 and they've comprised nearly 60% of deaths during covid. There are roughly equal numbers of healthcare workers (mostly women meaning lower risk) and they are about 0.4% of deaths. We have limited vaccine supplies to start and for me it would make more sense to get most likely groups to die and to be hospitalized for long periods vaccinated first. You cut mortality dramatically and you effectively end all stress on the hospital system rapidly.

    There are about another 25.5 million people aged 65-74 and 42.5 million people aged 55-64. That would cover about 92% of deaths and roughly 2/3rds of hospitalizations if all of those people were theoretically vaccinated. That would be covered by the MRNA and PFE initial vaccine deliveries.

    Anyhow...just me ranting...
     
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    Fatty what are you drinking tonight?
     
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    Trying to get a girl to join me for steak night. You?
     

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