Harden's mother: "He is doing the best for his career...He is asking for a chance to get a ring”

Aint nothing coming from Hardens mouth - letting his momma and whoever talk for him...

If he has issues with mgmt - fine... but the dude should have some level of respect for the fans that have supported him all these years and at least communicate beyond cryptic twitter pix or whatever...

He needs to be a MAN - instead of an entitled diva... imo...

 

You right about that, dude needs to make things clear right now.

 

I'm curious what is it you are asking of me?
I shouldn't believe Clutch, Macmahon, Cat, Iko on this matter, because they get their info from the team? If so, who should I trust? And where does he/she get their info?

I don't recall Clutch, etal claiming Tilman would definitely go into the tax (The_cat i can definitely see it - i dont follow him) - But i could be wrong. Regardless I dont trust Tilman, so I take his words with a grain of salt (is that the correct expression?)

Lastly I haven't argued that Fertita wasn't involved or a large part of the trade. Nor did I ask you to believe that this was ALL Harden, much less that Harden had ultimate power.

Due to the reason listed in the previous posts - IMO Harden was the driving force/major reason/impetus (but not exclusive factor) of the Westbrook trade. I don't think its that controversial or improbable a take.

 

Im not asking anything, Im merely giving my perspective on the matter. Im not saying not to trust them, but what Im saying is that this info they are being given is very biased and probably isnt reflective of the whole situation.

But I donno, how much sources Clutch actually has, he's media but at the same time how plugged in is he really? Clutch can believe it but most assuredly those other sources have said something along the lines of "we will go into luxury tax."

Yea, Im sure Harden did ask for it, but wether it was "him or me situation, or get Russ or trade me," is something that is being spun here. And THAT is something I dont believe. Especially when Tillman didnt go into the tax and didnt use the MLE. And again the dude went on TV and said he made this trade happen.

To add to all this, this same group is saying that Morey quit on the Rockets because James Harden asked to be traded. If that is the case, why did Morey take a full page ad for Harden? Why does Morey still want Harden even now?

Now that Harden wants out, its mostly his fault for the trade. And this trade was the reason Morey left and whatever else they wanna say. Im not really buying into this narrative they are pedling.

 

Regarding Morey, I'm of the opinion (and previously written) that he left because he saw the writing on the wall... ie... Tilman suck. The CP3 was forced on him. He knew WB/Harden weren't happy and that the situation wasn't going to improve on or off the court. Basically he knew the titanic was sinking and he jumped on the lifeboat before the loud drunk and broke captain even saw the Iceberg.

As for why the ad and why does he still want Harden... The harden trade was Morey's biggest achievement and made his career. Morey is also Harden's biggest fan and probably still is. He's grateful and despite how things ended probably still has a great deal of respect/admiration for Harden and their accomplishments together.

The reason he still wants Harden is simply because Harden is one of the top 5-7 basketball player in the world. Perhaps not a great gm, but even Lebron was at times a terrible gm... but noone is seeking their services because of their general managing skills.

It'll be interesting to see what Morey will be willing to give up in a trade for Harden. Hopefully we'll find out soon.

 

Hmmm, possibly. But I think as long as James was here, Morey was willing to work it out. But I think when Tillman inserted himself in the coaching situation, that's when Morey said I've had enough. Then everything collapsed after that. I guess the first domino was Mike.

 

Agreed Dantoni situation was a big factor. But it started the moment CP3 for Westbrook trade happened. Dantoni and everything with Harden/Westbrook only made the decision to leave even clearer. Hell I wouldn't be surprise if Dantoni and Morey discussed leaving the team in private.

 

Right, but who really had the final say in the situation of the trade...is something that is very much up for debate.

 

When it comes down to it, the owner has the final say. IMO Harden was the impetus, cause, driving force whatever you want to call it. Morey I'm guessing a reluctant passenger who had little veto power or imput and Patrick/Tilman the one who ultimately rubberstamped/approved it (over whatever objections/cold feet the front office had).

 

Right, I can agree with this, wether it was a "get Russ or trade me situation" we may not know. I have my doubts though.

 

Sounds more like Morey justifying the trade then explaining who made the trade happen.

This is GM 101 fyi.

 

Exactly, Harden is forcing Tilman to put his money where his mouth is.

Upgrade the Rockets to championship caliber or send me to another team willing to do so.

This has been Harden's message since day ONE, which Morey has confirmed many times.

 

The bad thing about James he doesnt realize that he looks like such a mammas boy. Definitely not a man

 

I love how his mother replying to a comment on instagram is being interpreted as her "talking for him" as if that's supposed to be taken as some official statement to the press.

 

I think Foggy is assuming just a bit more than evidence implies.

Morey was adamant that Harden did not want CP3 out, just wanted Russ in.

And Morey even told Harden that Russ deal was off the table and he was okay with it until "hands off" Tilly pushed the trade through at the ninth hour.

And it was well known EVERYWHERE that Tilly hated the CP3 contract, called it worst ever to anyone who would listen.

This revisionist history is disappointing.

 

Looking squarely at you McMahon and Feigan.

 

Harden doesnt need training camp, you know that.

He is sending his message loud and clear to Tilly and Stone after they said they were willing to get uncomfortable.

No one is uncomfortable yet.

Only media and fans.

 

Morey and MDA made those communication lines wide open.

And Harden trusted both without equivocation.

 

She is his agent.

That is why this situation is a ****ing mess.

This is the most unprofessional trade demand I've ever seen and we literally saw Anthony Davis wear a Looney Toons t- shirt.

 

Oh damn, didn't know that. I thought he represented himself. Nevermind!