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Does violating Covid orders make you liable if you spread Covid and someone dies?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Dec 6, 2020.

  1. deb4rockets

    deb4rockets Member
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    There comes a point when pure blatant disregard for the law should make you responsible and liable in my eyes. If a 300 person party violates a Governor's Covid restrictions people should be liable for any harm they inflict on others.

    It's no different than some drunk behind the wheel of a car killing innocent people.

    7 nursing home Covid-19 deaths reported after staff attended wedding
    The dead were at 3 facilities, Washington state health officials said. Four other fatalities are being reviewed for possible links to the 300-person party.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...deaths-reported-after-staff-attended-n1250116
     
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  2. rocketsjudoka

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    There was that couple that was arrested flying after they had tested positive for COVID-19. I get the feeling this will be one of those things that will be very selectively enforced.
     
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    It would be very difficult to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the actions of the staff led directly to the deaths of those people. Even public defenders would be able to cast doubt. Your case is pretty simple. All the prosecution would have to do is prove that they knew they were positive, knew they weren't supposed to fly, but did anyway.
     
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    Am expecting an explosion of civil cases for damages.
     
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    How about liability on a greatly watched channel i.,e, Fox News and lying to people that masks don't help and encouraging them to think that Covid is a hoax or at most just another case of the seasonal flu.
     
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    This is why NY State is our favorite state. The AG there is not ****ing around.
     
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    I'm certainly not a prosecutor but as the couple was charged with reckless endangerment even if you couldn't prove that any particular person was infected by someone charged couldn't just that they were acting recklessly be enough for a charge? For example a drunken driver might not get into an accident harming someone but the act of driving drunk in itself is considered dangerous and illegal.
     
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    That drunken driver knew he was drunk or had been drinking before driving. The staff of this nursing home knew something could have happened, but didn't know, as far as I can tell, that they were positive.

    It would be like someone being charged with a crime for unknowingly giving someone herpes. Even if they were a promiscuous person, they wouldn't be charged.
     
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    The difference is they broke the law on Covid restrictions by the mass gathering. These were nurses who care for the most vulnerable.
     
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    Not if McConnell has his way...
     
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    If it's a law, then have it, charge them.
     
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    the virus is now controlling purple zombie turtle!
     
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    I think there is a certain level of liability... if you know you have it or you have symptoms in these times and you don't mask up and go home asap/go get tested.

    That said... this argument is why the USA and other countries MUST hold China accountable. They KNEW they were dealing with a dangerous virus and let it out intentionally while limiting domestic travel. This is a crime against humanity. Genocide levels.

    Furthermore, the leaders in NYC who knowingly put COVID patients in nursing/retirement centers should be put on trial for genocide.
     
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    @deb4rockets there have been instances of people getting charged with reckless endangerment, but that’s about it

    the latest I heard about was this one

    A Hawaiian couple who boarded a United flight from San Francisco to Lihue, Hawaii, after knowingly testing positive for COVID-19 has been banned from flying with the airline, Leigh Schramm, spokesperson for United Airlines, told USA TODAY in a statement Friday.

    "We have banned these customers while we investigate this matter," Schramm said, noting in the statement that the the "health and safety of our employees and customers is our highest priority."

    The Kaua‘i Police Department confirmed to USA TODAY on Wednesday that Wailua residents Wesley Moribe and Courtney Peterson were taken into custody Sunday for "placing the passengers of the flight in danger of death."

    According to a police report, Moribe, 41, and Peterson, 46, were ordered by the Quarantine Station at the San Francisco International Airport to isolate after testing positive for the highly contagious virus.

    The couple, however, defied airport orders and boarded a United Airlines flight from San Francisco to the islands. Moribe and Peterson were accompanied by a 4-year-old child.

    Once the couple arrived at the Lihue Airport, they were identified by officers that "escorted them to a designated isolation room for further processing and investigation," KPD Public Information Officer Coco Zickos said in a statement.

    After they continued with their plans, despite the positive tests, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention alerted authorities in Lihue, Zickos told NBC.

    Moribe and Peterson were charged with reckless endangerment. They both posted bail at $1,000 each.


     
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