Conservatives call on Trump to declare Marital Law to Invalidate Election

The Moonies keep on printing their propaganda and most of the world keep on not caring.

 

It's December 5, and Joe " I'll develop some disease and say I have to resign" Biden is still not the president-elect.

Also Georgia pipegate is damning. More to come from PA too as evidence surfaces.

 

Liberals are fine. People pretending to be liberal are the problem.

 

President Kamala Harris, the first mixed race woman President
that would be great!

(am I liberal or pretending?)

 

I wouldn't put this beyond Trump and frankly if he were to try a military coup that would come crashing down quickly. I don't think that military will follow him. Further if Trump were to try that then I think the Biden Administration would have no choice but to prosecute.

I'm far more worried about Trump supporters becoming domestic terrorists and still think there is a likelihood of this happening.

 

I’m curious as to how much you’ve donated to the recount effort.

 

Yeah I think Trump just wants the media coverage of him executing this order, and use that to push the Republican Party and The propaganda networks to lock in their loyalty for him to execute this order so they locked in publicly to the next level.

He’s singularly focused on securing his financial and political security... which are intertwined at this point. He loses his seat as the cleric cult leader then he loses the funding and he loses enough Republican government support to fight against any prosecution. In his eyes he sees the courts as 100% corrupt and sees no difference in Gym Jordan to Brett Kavanaugh. He sees them as the same with different levels of power to help Trump when he needs them.

The outcome of this by Trump though is it will lead to further radicalization of his base and of course Democracy is dead with half the country and around the world autocrats will be throwing parades. It’ll be impossible to just assume we have a Democratic Republic when half the country openly supports a military Coup to maintain power.

 

I think that's hyperbole, not all 0f Trumps supporters support a military coup and all of the Republican govt does not.

We know with the votes that the military does not all support him and declaring a coup will 100% get him locked up, point blank.

 

Support of a military coup (the way Trump will sell it) won’t be the way you’d think it would be. It’ll be sold by Republicans as “of course for security reasons the President should take extra measures calling our very fine members of the military.”

As with everything in the Trump era nothing is as blatant with the Republicans. There’s always talking points crafted so people can defend their positions but their positions are obvious.

It might sound like hyperbole but when you step back and look at things from 30,000 feet.... hell yeah Republicans and their voters will support a military coup in theory as long as they get their talking points that their military coup isn’t really a military coup.

And no the military will NOT obey the ridiculous executive orders we all know are coming. The generals will only do what the courts order them to do if they interject which I doubt they do since not much is getting seriously consideration from the “Elite Taskforce” which is what... 1 for 46? An executive order is coming but it’s for show... and of course Republicans will defend it.

Where have I been wrong yet??? I said for months that Trump would try to force a vote in House after he lost so he could stay in power and people said that was Trump Derangement Syndrome.

 

Were you sober when you wrote this??

 

Yes and I was sober when I wrote that yes Trump would try to invoke the 12th amendment to force a vote in the house to stay in power, and people like you said the same crap.

No he won’t actually pull off a successful military coup. Yes he’ll issue executive orders to the pentagon in a few weeks. Yes Republicans, FoxNews, and Trump supporters will all sing his tune as well and defend it. There’s nothing I’ve seen so far that leads me to believe otherwise.

Joe Biden will be president on January 20th. I repeat... Joe Biden will be president.

However Trump is still going to hold the Republican Party as a willing hostage and our Democracy will be in trouble because elections are a nuisance now that half the country doesn’t believe in and that’s the real problem. I don’t know why you guys think it is so crazy. The guy is literally trying to overturn the election by bullying Governors just today into sending faithless electors to the EC vote. If someone will do that, why the hell wouldn’t they issue an executive order to the military??

I think you are the ones that might need to sober the F up.

 

Uhmmm I didn’t even know what the 12th amendment is. But ok mr coup. People like me need to sober the F up. Ok

 

Every event of the past 4 years I've viewed with the most over the top, pessimistic view I could come up with. 45 only ever missed the mark because of incompetence (to include WH staff and cabinet) and narcissism that I literally couldn't imagine. Never, not once because of a sliver of humanity, altruism or common sense.

That is to say, I agree with you... and the threat is the same as ever. Someone is metaphorically shooting at you, and just because they pissed themselves and keep falling over doesn't make it funny or less serious.

 

If the election is legally challenged and found to be illigitimate then Trump is the rightful president...

Then certain areas that don't respect the results may need to be policed militarily... not that I want such a thing but our legal results must be upheld. Everyday more evidence comes forward to challenge the current outcome.

 

How's that going for ya?

 

@peleincubus yes... you need to sober up. This is what Trump supports want and what Republicans will excuse the attempts. We laugh at Daschuda here but outside of CF this is pretty mainstream Trumper nonsense. Just because Trump is incompetent doesn’t mean what he’s attempting isn’t what he’s attempting.

We can laugh off everything from Daschuda to Trump but imo we cannot laugh off the Republican Party sanctioning of this type of fascist garbage. Over the next four years it’s important that those “reasonable” Republicans be reminded what they actually were sanctioning even though it wasn’t successful. I’m happy to be “Mr Coup” if that means I told the truth while some joined in or just enjoyed ignorance.

 

How much have you donated to the recount effort?

 

"hell yeah Republicans and their voters will support a military coup in theory as long as they get their talking points that their military coup isn’t really a military coup."

how may GOPers in the house has spoken against it? or at least the fact the DJT has tried twice to overturn the results of 2 states by calling/pleading to their governor?

 

...I believe one of the points @dobro1229 is trying to make about all of this...
...(if I may be so presumptuous)...

...is that all of this ham-handed buffoonery by the Donald isn't so much about methodology as it is about opportunity.

...it's not all that surprising to me, that the GOP has, in the face of the Donald's brazen declarations with regards to the election, backed away from the cliff, so to speak...

...if for no other reason (and, perhaps for political survival's sake) than because of the obvious ridiculousness of the Donald's attempt at subversion of the same democratic process that, for all of its quirks, seated him in the presidency just four years earlier without a hint of all of this "widespread" voter fraud nonsense he's carping on.

Nobody here, I'd wager, has had more fun with this inanity than I have. The Donald himself is made for televised viewing. He is a circus unto himself, and he's got the lion's mane on top of his head to prove it.

I don't believe that anybody with more than two working brain cells could have convinced themselves that the Donald was ever going to behave like someone with an ounce of decency or competency, for any determinative length of time, while he held the presidency. To see him now stoop to behavior that is comically status quo for him is almost beside the point.

Can the Donald actually (with or without help from his Ringling Bros. & Barnum & Bailey Circus troupe of "elite" legal "minds") come anywhere close to upending an election process that, for the better part of one hundred years, has withstood far greater scrutiny than he has managed to subject it to, for no other reason than to somehow survive the ineptitude that cast him in a role he wasn't able to fill in the first place?

Of course not.

What the Donald doesn't and couldn't understand (because he's always done exactly what he wanted to do...the laws be damned), is that this isn't about what HE wants to do (opportunity), as much as it is about the way it would have to happen (method).

The Donald's hard to take your eyes off of, I know. Used to be, you'd have to pay to see a freak like this outside of a carnival. But he's not who we should be looking at.

The republicans have found ways to subvert the will of much of the populace through outright deceit and political machiavelli for many years. They're pretty good at it. They found out long ago that they could dismiss or ignore as many of the governmental "norms" of our politics as they needed to, if they had access to the apparatus that could most effectively do that, which would give their behavior the veneer of legitimacy. At whatever level (local, state or federal).

A "coup" by any other name, if you will...

There are many people in this nation, knowingly or not, who would sign off on an authoritarian if they were convinced somehow that it was their choice and not someone else's. And especially if he pointed out who their enemies are, and who was responsible for all of their ails and troubles.

Sound familiar?

It's obvious, to me anyway, that the last thing the Donald knows anything about or understands, is power. He never had anything like power before, not really...and certainly nothing like the power he's had to flirt with as president.

Everything the Donald's ever had has been given to him. Even the presidency. Which is why (beyond insane proclamations and infantile gesticulations), he couldn't figure out the first way to hold onto it.

Some 70 million people voted for this piece of dog meat, knowing exactly what particular flavor of dog meat he is.

If the Donald had ANY idea of how to run anything (be it a private business or a democratic government)...
...he would have gotten the results he's whining about not getting, instead of shooting the process itself in the foot with the way he's behaved.

People (too many people) were ready to give this fool the proverbial keys to the kingdom, if he could only convince them that it wasn't about him...but about them.

It's the gamble the GOP made with the Donald from the very beginning and lost. They've got no problem cutting bait with him now, if that's what it's going to take.

I have very serious reservations about anything like "honor" or "integrity" rearing its head from the republicans. Again, rejecting the Donald's very out-front and seditious machinations is too obvious a thing to do and score brownie points for. The wolves know how to blend in with the sheep.

If we don't want this type of thing to become a recurring theme, then we'd better keep our eyes on everybody involved in this. And when the opportunity arises, to bring the hammer down legally on anybody looking to facilitate or profit from this treasonous madness.

...because if we don't, somebody's going to show up and convince enough of us that destroying this nation is the best option we have.

 

I agree that Trump calling out the military to try to overturn the election is a possibility. I also agree that there will be many who support it. That said I don't think support, especially among Congress will be as widespread as you think.

It's easy for Congressional Republicans to just stay silent and leave it to the courts and states to work through the election. They can basically sit back and not take a stand, which is already bad, but if there is something like calling out the military it will be very hard for them to stay silent. Also as any such action would require Congress to vote at least on funding they will have to speak up. While the Matt Gaetz and maybe Tom Cottons might go along with this I have a very hard time seeing people like Ben Sasse or even Marco Rubio supporting something that is illegal on the face of it, not likely to be carried out by the military leadership and if succeeded would lead to a massive revolt that could break the country.