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Mike Flynn...what's the deal?

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  1. Dubious

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    Do you google?

    Obama warned Trump about Flynn, officials say
    The White House, however, continues to blame Obama for not revoking Flynn's security clearance.
     
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  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Obama didn't say he was a threat
     
  3. Dubious

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    Did you google and read?

    Mr. Obama, who had fired Mr. Flynn as the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, told Mr. Trump that he would have profound concerns about Mr. Flynn becoming a top national security aide, said the administration officials, who were briefed on the Oval Office conversation. Mr. Trump later ignored the advice, naming Mr. Flynn to be his national security adviser.
     
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  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Ok, so you didn't. Bottom line is that it is a criminal felony to lie to the FBI.

    It's strange we can live in a culture where not following a police man orders to the exact t results in your death but you can lie with aplomb to the FBI and have all these people call it railroading.
     
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  5. B@ffled

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    Flynn was highly critical of the Iran deal and also was privy to a bunch other Obama phuckery. Also, Flynn would have put and end to the FBI/CIA/DOJ's Russia investigation. Of course Obama wanted him out. Trump ignored him so they went after Flynn. It wasn't until after the Oval Office meeting that Flynn was set up. Declassified notes substantiate it.

    Flynn lied to Pence: This I assume is correct although I've read that it even this isn't true. I think we're probably splitting hairs or walking a fine line on both, that he lied to the FBI and that he lied to Pence. Regardless, he was not charged with a crime for lying to Pence. He was fired for cause.

    IMO The two following questions need to be answered:
    1.) What did Flynn specifically lie about to the FBI? What is the exact language? I've never been able to hunt this down.

    2.) What did he lie to Pence about? What specifically was asked and what was the answer? This one, I think he might have.

    It's pointless to argue over it now, because we can split hairs to favor our points of view. He's pardoned, which I believe is justified.

    The dude is a folk hero on the right. He knows the dirt on the Obama's Syria policy, the Iran fiasco and if you believe urban legend, he's privy to NSA captured communications by both political parties and foreign adversaries. The DoD team are Flynn's guys. I suspect the whole Q psych op was driven by Flynn's pals. The movement shouldn't be underestimated. It's the same group who call themselves anons that are providing the dirt on the election machines. Hell, Sydney Powell is playing straight out of the Q playbook.

    I don't consider myself an 'anon'. I can't say that I'm a Q follower, although I have a website bookmarked and can look up the Q posts - does that make me a 'follower'? I'm not really an activist, so I don't think so. Plus the stuff alleged is so explosive and outrageous, the whole political class would have to be corrupt... But listen to what Sydney says. Exactly that. I think Flynn is behind the Q thing. A good lie is riddled with bits of truths.
     
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  6. NewRoxFan

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    General Colin Powell...

    https://www.businessinsider.com/colin-powell-donald-trump-mike-flynn-emails-2016-9
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    That Flynn was compromised and unsound for the job.

    It's been discussed many times on these boards, and I'm not going to do your research for you. You could google it if you wished.
     
  8. Redfish81

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    I haven't followed the Flynn case that much. However, we knew this was ending with him getting a pardon if he wasn't let off totally because of the DOJ. At least we can stop wasting time and money in the court system.
     
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  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Obama didn't have an Iran fiasco. There was no dirt on Obama's Syria policy. There was no Obama phuckery. Your whole premise is based on some crazy conspiracy theory that because Flynn had dirt on Obama, they somehow tricked Flynn into lying to the FBI. There is zero proof of it, and Flynn at any point could have told whatever information he had on Obama. He has produced nothing of note.
     
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  10. pgabriel

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    Bro why bring all these other issues. Its discussing anything with you. Police and this are totally separate issues. I dont care what he lied about because he wasn't dangering the country in his discussion with the Russian ambassador. If he lied about killing someone it would be different
     
  11. larsv8

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    It really doesn't matter what you care about because the whole issue is beyond you.

    The lying charge was a placeholder charge as part of the cooperation deal. It's a lesser charge by design to limit assessed penalties in exchange for cooperation. To challenge the seriousness of a plea deal charge is a fools errand and an argument that only a moron would make.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    A placeholder for what. No one was implicated by him. Logically if they had other people and gave him a deal why didn't they follow through?

    There was no collusion. There are no other people.
     
  13. larsv8

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    I’m sorry you don’t understand what a cooperating plea is. That’s not my problem.
     
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    Right, that's how you can be hypocritical. If you don't have to look at other issues for consistency, then you can take opposite positions on any issue to support what you want. It's a great way to live life if you like lying to yourself.
     
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    This should be your signature.
     
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  16. Kim

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    This. DOJ was going to drop the charges otherwise. The judge was doing his thing mainly to delay and shame the administration. There really isn't a legit legal endgame other than dropped charges or a pardon.
     
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  17. pgabriel

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    I dont judge poluce shootings all the same. More ASSuming by you. You know my position on every police shooting eva?
     
  18. pgabriel

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    Cooperate to so what? You keep saying he cooperated in exchange for a lighter sentence. Cooperated to do what?
     
  19. larsv8

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    He cooperated with the Mueller probe, specifically with the obstruction of justice portion.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Cooperated how?
     

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