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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 18, 2020.

  1. SKYGODZ187

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    What did we get for Bailey
     
  2. bobrek

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    Cash
     
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    Crane broke AF confirmed
     
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    Hunter Renfroe from the Rays and Trevor Williams from the Pirates were designated for assignment
     
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  5. Nook

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    There are some possible solid outfielders not offered arbitration... Tommy Pham, Eddie Rosario are interesting
     
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    I am surprised there weren’t more meaningful trades but my guess is thats because they wanted to wait and see what the non-tender deadline brings.
     
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    No nut November must be hitting you hard dude
     
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    Something was hard that's for sure
     
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    Would you guys entertain a McCullers Garcia and PTBNL for N. Senzel?


    Grab JBJ look into Pham or Profor aswell.
    I get we want Brantley back, but let's face it we can save some cash.

    Would also Grab atleast two of Hand, Yates, Doolittle or Chaffin.

    Look into both Minor and McCann.

    I think this would be a decent offseason.

    It sounds like alot of money
     
  10. Astrofan59

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    Of course I would entertain it, but there is no way the Reds would
     
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    Why do the Reds make this trade? Senzel for a year of McCullers and our #13 prospect? LOL no
     
  12. SKYGODZ187

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    They need pitching badly. They are gonna miss out on aloy of things this year besides the playoffs.
     
  13. Redfish81

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    Makes zero sense to give up a cost controlled player like Senzel for a midtier prospect and Lance McCullers. For a few million more than what McCullers will make they could get one of the veteran starters in free agency that could easily out pitch McCullers and not create another hole in their roster.

    What Astros prospect would you NOT be willing to trade for Senzel? That's probably what it would actually take.
     
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  14. Joe Joe

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    Garcia. I get that MLB pipeline has Garcia as the 13th best prospect. I get that when all caps says something that the knee jerk is that it is wrong. Garcia looked really good except he wasn't elevating his fastball in the regular season (i.e., his fastball wasn't in the same tunnel as his breaking/offspeed stuff making it easy to lay off junk). His fastball wasn't all over the place suggesting he has some control of it, but that he didn't have the confidence to challenge batters up often. If he can elevate his fastball more and get one junk pitch over for a strike a little more, and he's a MoR SP.

    Against Tampa in the playoffs, he wasn't perfectly in sync (e.g., hit a batter 0-2 with a breaking ball in the dirt), but it looked like he was making a concerted effort to elevate his fastball more than normal. They put his fastball in play three times. Three harmless flies though one went a long way as a moonshot to the warning track. He got 4 called strikes upstairs and three bad swings on junk as batters could not tell his pitches apart as easily as they did in the regular season.

    Any list this offseason that has Garcia as a midtier prospect with Abreu as the 3rd best is wrong.
     
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    Pretty crazy to see all of the NBA franchises handing out guaranteed money like it’s no big deal. Van Fleet got 85m...Hayward 120m...even middling players are getting really solid deals...It’s a different sport clearly, but it’s interesting to compare the lack of league-wide stinginess in the NBA despite the pandemic to whats going on in the MLB. MLB owners and franchises are non-tendering and seemingly bringing down the market considerably more than we’ve never seen before...
     
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  16. Joe Joe

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    NBA players salaries are tied to league-revenue such that they make 49-51% combined of whatever the NBA makes. Hayward's 120 million guaranteed doesn't all go to Hayward's pockets. A significant chunk (heard NBA was trying for 40%) goes into escrow. If NBA owners don't generate about double the combined player payroll, the NBA takes money back from the escrow accounts until the players salaries are 51% of the revenue.

    MLB owners have been taking a smaller chunk of revenue than their NBA counterparts since about 2014, don't have salary caps, and don't have escrow accounts setup for MLB salaries. Hard to call the MLB owners stingy in comparison (though stingy in comparison to people with less money, in general) to the NBA owners who have slapped around their player's association so bad that they had a system already setup capable of protecting their bottom lines during a pandemic.
     
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    Apparently the Rays are open to trading Blake Snell. Any interest and what would you offer?
     
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    I don't think we have the ability to make that deal. You are probably talking something like Javier and Tucker. We don't have the elite prospects to make the deal and would have to trade assets from the MLB roster.
     
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    I would want to know why he is available.
     
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  20. Mr.Pringles

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    It’s how the Rays operate. Feel bad for their fans.
     
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