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Is the Trump Coup underway?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by CometsWin, Nov 10, 2020.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    Another absurdity has been recent complaints of libs using "virtue signaling" by Breitbart mouth breathers, when these orgs virtue signal God, Flag, and Country non-stop in order to get their shifty narrative across.

    They do everything to study and subvert Con mentality with their preferences for symbols and overamplifying/disposing perceived threats.
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    There is zero proof Dominion cost Trump the election or have any widespread malfunctions.
    Stop buying into the crap.
     
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    Patience. Just because you say there's zero proof does not make it so. The machines were built specifically for cheating. The question really is: Did the big cheat happen?

    It's been alleged that Kemp won the GA governors race because of it. There wasn't a concession, remember? This was looked into in the 2012, 2016 and 2018 elections. Rumor is an executive order was put in place specifically to deal with Dominion, it's participants and the foreign entities who enable by funding or provide technical assistance to anyone participating in election fraud. It's a national security issue and this EO allows for a multitude of options in dealing with it.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

    If this Dominion thing was anticipated, this EO is the 'trap'. Again, the question is: Did the big cheat happen? We'll see if can be proven. Trump's team is confident and Pelosi is telling House Reps to wait on accepting cabinet jobs.

    I found a YT video that cliff notes the executive order that was written in 2018.

     
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    @CometsWin You're wrong in assuming that. What is 'lost on me' is why you've limited yourself to spoon fed material. The AP says, there Dominion is perfectly fine... You blindly accept it. Again. And again.

    For someone who takes pride in 'sticking it to the man' and fighting for just causes, which I believe you do, the irony of the situation is not lost on me. And that is you've allowed yourself to be fooled into voting for the very 'machine' you hate.

    Does Trump have all of the tech companies, all of the media oligarchs backing him, funding him? No he doesn't.

    Does Joe Biden? Why, yes he does. And why is that? Because he does their bidding and plays their game. How can I come to that conclusion? Over 40 years of proof.

    I don't fault anyone for disliking or hating Trump. The fault I see is that the hate has created a huge blind spot.

    Going a tad off topic: Trudeau spoke about the 'Great Reset'. Is that up your alley? Dig into it some. Where did the idea come from? When did it get created? Who's ideas are these? "The Great Reset" has had different names. Take some time and dig past the MSM. You'll probably find some evil conspiracy theories, but once you weed out the trash I believe come to understand what it means. When you do, then your answer becomes interesting.
     
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    I don't think "Getting clowned by NBA journeyman Isaiah Thomas" is a sign that your coup is going very well.
     
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    I save this video for the dumbest of dumb. Congrats
     
  7. Invisible Fan

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    I bet you'll believe Project Veritas over AP and give the former's blatant history of sketchiness a pass.

    Fox News makes a billion in profit a year over people like you, when if they really gave a **** about America or our cherished values they would actually spend the people and money to prove Trump's allegations.

    Instead you get cracker jack witnesses who never publicly come forward with "the fraud".

    It's a real sad display in reason. Almost as sad as covidiots dying in ICUs fervently in denial and openly hostile to their caregivers.
     
  8. saitou

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    What's lost on you is that Trump was the incumbent. If his government can't run an election without the rampant fraud that you think occurred, then he's too incompetent to be the head of that government. He was complaining about election fraud and losing the popular vote from the moment he got elected and had 4 years to fix it if he really thought there was a problem.
     
  9. deb4rockets

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    Trump has been a lying cheat and con his whole life. No clean cut citizen has hundreds or thousands of lawsuits against them for years. No decent guy has had 26 incidents of “unwanted sexual contact” and 43 instances of inappropriate behavior against them.

    No nice guy hangs out with felons and two of the biggest sexual predators around. No nice guy cheats on all his wives and shifts money from his own kids cancer charity into his own business. No honorable respectable guy lies compulsively, bullies others with verbal assaults, and plays political games with people's lives by taking a no mask stance as President during a pandemic.

    He has not an ounce of integrity. He NEVER admits he is wrong, and never apologizes for his mistakes. That's simply sociopathic / psychotic, when you put all those traits together. Don is a cold blooded snake in a suit. He will say or do anything to keep his power, and his entire family will be with him full force, in spreading the lies, hate, and propaganda to keep their butts out of prison. If the Republicans enable him to rise up against the results, and refuse to concede with no proof that he should have won, then we have a much bigger problem in this country than Trump himself.
     
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    This post has actual value.
    That’s been my opinion too. If they already knew, nip it in the bud. As it was pointed out to me, each state was lobbied heavily. Around 30 states chose to use them. Texas did not and actually issued sound reasoning behind there decision not to. They identified the security issues and issues a report. The people responsible for the decision in these other states went another direction. Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobochar voiced concerns in the senate about these machines. McConnell donated to Dominion. I’m sure he was quite kosher with winning big.

    @Invisible Fan At this point do you really believe this is not something that will be or is huge news? Throw out at bet if you’re that solid. The AP,.. the MSM are all going to say the claims are baseless or there’s no evidence. It will be big news. Bank on it.

    Can it be proven? That’s one I wouldn’t bet on unless I got good odds.
     
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    Keep that video handy, kid. We’ll circle back to it when the time comes.
     
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    So you're bringing up now that McConnell donated to Dominion and you mentioned Brian Kemp's victory so that means they are questionable yet this is only an issue because Trump is claiming he was cheated out of the election and that Dominion machines are part of that..

    Do you not see how the points you're bringing up counter your own central argument?
     
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    lol
     
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    ...just because his head is spinning...
    ...he thinks everybody else must be dizzy, too.

    God bless you all for entertaining this nonsense.:rolleyes:
     
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    They don't counter my arguments because I'm implying that they both might be complicit, either knowingly or not. So, yes they are questionable. So is any other election held using these machines, IN MY OPINION. How do you undo what's been done? I dunno. I think you fix what you know is wrong and restore faith in the election process here in the U.S.

    If you take a look at what MY arguments are, they are really separate from the Dominion thing. I'm posting what I'm reading/watching about in the right-wing Twitter/Parler, etc.. world. There's now way I can definitively say the cheating occurred. Or rather, if I do say it or imply it, I'm doing so with a bias and a belief founded on what I've read. There are two main points that I've been trying to bring here in my posts:

    1) There is a 'conspiracy' (we'll call it that because it's unproven) that is being pushed by the right, mainly Trump's supporters about the Dominion voting machines and it's software(s). I know you guys aren't going to delve into that world, so I'm posting it as a heads up. Hey, don't shoot the messenger, please! Also, I can't prove to you guys that the massive cheating actually happened. I'm not sure that Trump's team can. It's a huge, complex thing that if true, exposes the U.S.'s involvement in other foreign elections and in past elections here in the U.S. Quite frankly, it would be a national security issue.

    2) I firmly believe that the Dem. party is being used by the large corporations to do their bidding. Some in the Republican party are on board too. It comes down to who's getting paid. I believe this isn't unique to one party, because the Bush admin was knee deep in it and it continued on in the Obama era. Things got ugly once the Donald tried to assert his policies. The media attacked him and he attacked back. If you don't see a coordinated message in the media, it's because you aren't looking. How do the same large media companies put out stories with key words that match? "Build Back Better" "The Great Reset" keep an eye out for common phrases. If these were independent, the language in their articles would be unique while telling the same story. What flagged me was the term "....to dig up dirt on a political opponent" during the impeachment era. The transcript was released and the reporting should've sounded different because those words were not used in the phone call. But almost all of the MSM used those words.

    Anyway, I think I've been consistent in my views on the MSM and I accept that I'll get called a crazy whacko for stating them. That's OK. If my posts gets one person to question things and starting asking 'why', the criticism is worth it. And to those who want to make it personal.... what's the point? Unless it's funny. Then by all means because I'm laughing too.

    So, here's an honest question: Shall I stop posting the crap I'm seeing? I feel like you're getting a heads up on what's coming from the right before you see it mainstream. Or shall I keep the comedy coming?
     
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    Yet if it wasn't for the Covid Virus Trump would have won again. The weak sauce of the Dems from Clinton through Obama has been for forty years failing to protect the average American from rapacious billionaires and their conservative/ libertarian fan boys. Some of Biden's recent rhetoric provides a bit of hope that Biden might be wising up in his old age.
     
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    No way! He wouldn't have won. He was still a traitor Putin loving jerk who treated Putin better than any leader in our country who was a Democrat. Even Hilary beat him in the popular vote last time and Biden would have still done better, simply because Trump proved he was still a compulsive liar, con, and grifter who abused women and acted like a 12 year old. As for greedy billionaires, they love Trump. Huge Corporations live him too, especially when it comes to bailout loans while others suffer.
     
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    Honestly you're just conflating a lot of things in some big red pill soup. If you want to discuss the media, oligarchy, big tech, globalism, or whatever then let's discuss them not in some George Soros conspiracy but with facts. You cannot go on in typically Trump style just throwing stuff at the wall looking to see what sticks. This style just undermines credibility which is why Trump has none.

    The AP has build a reputation over decades. When they release information I'm 95% that it's pretty accurate. You cannot compare the AP with right wing conspiracy theory media. It's a false equivalency. Now you want to talk about how the legacy media can decide what's important and how they fail the best interests of the public? Legitimate concern and I am with you on that.

    Now with respect to corporatism, there's zero question that all of our Presidents going back to Reagan were owned by corporations. The problem I have with the conservative depiction of Democrats is that there's no such thing as a liberal or progressive corporatist. Clinton, Obama, and Biden are moderate corporatists. Now here is where I assume we'll diverge. The reason corporations have so much power in politics is the concept of money as free speech and the notion that corporations are people. This is completely a Republican idea. Democrats support taking the money out of politics, even having tax payer funded elections. So you cannot both decry corporate ownership of politicians and support money as free speech. Make up your mind.
     
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    Yet another trump cultist feeding off of One America News (OAN) in particular, and Newsmax. He’s very baffled.
     
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    Interesting that you take none of Trumps faults to heart. One could say he isn't an NFL owner because they saw him as a powerful force and were afraid of him. Or you could be planted in reality and say "they ****ing laugh at the dude because he's joke and a con man and they want to actually see your taxes."
     
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