Go back and read the comment I was responding to, then take a moment to consider why I posted the stats I did given that context. Good luck!
That was the data I had available. If I had data that went to 59 or 60, I'd have used it instead. The point i was making was that despite being able to find outliers, what I define as "young people" have basically no chance of dying from COVID-19 infection. Those in their 40's and 50's barely have any chance of it either. You don't start to have a substantial risk of death from COVID-19 until you are 65+. That's why the average age of someone who died from COVID-19 is around 82.... which is about 4 years beyond the average life expectancy in the US. I'm just posting the facts to counter the emotional fear mongering.
Then what it is over there in Texas? What's the current mean age of ICU patients in Texas right now? What % is each age category? How much % of 40-65 year olds? If you say this is only here and not there then say what it is like there.
I hope your grandmother has a good recovery and gets back on good health soon. My hopes and prayers with you and your family. Stay strong in this tough time.
So..according to this data if you are a smoker or if you had a cancer diagnosed over 5 years ago You have higher chance of surviving. But if you stop smoking you are screwed.
I don't have information on the age of ICU patients, though I would imagine most would be 65+ given that 70.4% of fatalities in Texas have been 65+ despite that age group only making up 10.7% of cases in Texas. Like is true elsewhere, the vast majority of people who get COVID-19 are young but the vast majority of those who have problems with it are elderly. If you have that Texas COVID-19 ICU patient age information, I'd like to see it.
This one at least seems more realistic. Now we just wait and see if they cut the effectiveness estimate in half life like with the Pfizer drug. “Moderna's vaccine appears to be easier to store as it remains stable at minus 20C for up to six months and can be kept in a standard fridge for up to a month. Pfizer's vaccine needs ultra-cold storage at around minus 75C, but it can be kept in the fridge for five days.”
Some more good new Moderna's vaccine is shown to be very effective. This gives now two vaccines that are shown to be highly effective. https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/16/health/moderna-vaccine-results-coronavirus/index.html Moderna's coronavirus vaccine is 94.5% effective, according to company data (CNN)The Moderna vaccine is 94.5% effective against coronavirus, according to early data released Monday by the company, making it the second vaccine in the United States to have a stunningly high success rate. "These are obviously very exciting results," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease doctor. "It's just as good as it gets -- 94.5% is truly outstanding." Moderna heard its results on a call Sunday afternoon with members of the Data Safety and Monitoring Board, an independent panel analyzing Moderna's clinical trial data. "It was one of the greatest moments in my life and my career. It is absolutely amazing to be able to develop this vaccine and see the ability to prevent symptomatic disease with such high efficacy," said Dr. Tal Zacks, Moderna's chief medical officer. Vaccinations could begin in the second half of December, Fauci said. Vaccinations are expected to begin with high-risk groups and to be available for the rest of the population next spring. Unexpectedly high efficacy rates Last week, Pfizer announced that early data show its vaccine is more than 90% effective against the disease. In Moderna's trial, 15,000 study participants were given a placebo, which is a shot of saline that has no effect. Over several months, 90 of them developed Covid-19, with 11 developing severe forms of the disease. Another 15,000 participants were given the vaccine, and only five of them developed Covid-19. None of the five became severely ill. The company says its vaccine did not have any serious side effects. A small percentage of those who received it experienced symptoms such as body aches and headaches. Moderna plans to apply to the US Food and Drug Administration for authorization of its vaccine soon after it accumulates more safety data later this month. Fauci says he expects the first Covid-19 vaccinations to begin "towards the latter part of December, rather than the early part of December." Initially, there won't be enough vaccine for everyone. The highest priority groups, which include health care workers, the elderly, and people with underlying medical conditions, will get the vaccine first. "I think that everybody else will start to get vaccinated towards the end of April," Fauci said. "And that will go into May, June, July. It will take a couple of months to do." A new vaccine technology Pfizer's and Moderna's vaccines have similar results because they use the same technique to activate the body's immune system. The vaccines deliver messenger RNA, or mRNA, which is a genetic recipe for making the spikes that sit atop the coronavirus. Once injected, the body's immune system makes antibodies to the spikes. If a vaccinated person is later exposed to the coronavirus, those antibodies should stand at the ready to attack the virus. No vaccine currently on the market uses mRNA. "There has always been skepticism about mRNA -- it's brand new and would it work?" Fauci said. "What we saw in the trials is there was no real safety concern, and the efficacy is quite impressive. We saw nearly identical results [with Pfizer and Moderna] and it almost really validates the mRNA platform." Research on mRNA began many years before the current pandemic. Fauci's agency, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has collaborated with Moderna on the development of its vaccine. Both vaccines are given in two doses several weeks apart. Practical advantages of Moderna's vaccine While the two vaccines appear to have very similar safety and efficacy profiles, Moderna's vaccine has a significant practical advantage over Pfizer's. Pfizer's vaccine has to be kept at minus 75 degrees Celsius. No other vaccine in the US needs to be kept that cold, and doctors' offices and pharmacies do not have freezers that go that low. Moderna's vaccine can be kept at minus 20 degrees Celsius. Other vaccines, such as the one against chickenpox, need to be kept at that temperature. That means Moderna's vaccine can be kept in "a readily available freezer that is available in most doctors' offices and pharmacies," Zacks said. "We leverage infrastructure that already exists for other marketed vaccines." Another advantage of Moderna's vaccine is that it can be kept for 30 days in the refrigerator, the company announced Monday. Pfizer's vaccine can last only five days in the refrigerator.
While news having two vaccines showing high efficacy with possibly more coming is very promising still need to remember it will take months before any vaccine these are widely available. I'm listening to Dr. Ashish Jha right now saying we're looking at April or May before a vaccine is widely available. In the meantime hospitals around the nation are being pushed to and beyond capacity. As a friend of mine said even if you don't have COVID-19 now is not a good time to get on a ladder or start a new sport.
Yes I thought so. Since there is a boycott of information how would you possibly have the data available? You would imagine...yeah I would imagine too since the mean fatality age here is also 86 but guess what? Now half the patients in the ICU are 40-65 years old. And I would look at the fatality age and say oh most people in the ICU must be old and if someone young dies it is an exception. So before you think you are safe and better off , think that you don't even have the availablilty of the data, of what is currently happening inside the ICUs of Texas. Lack of information does not equate lack of danger. Before the fatality age rapidly falls or before they start choosing who to incubate because there are too many 50 year olds needing ventilators ACT NOW. USA had 1 million new cases in a single week. 40% of the population is obese. Stop acting that it does not concern you or those around you before it is too late.
The most important thing the past 4 years have taught us is that nonsense cannot be allowed to be spewed unopposed. Because lies and misinformation if repeated one too many times becomes the truth in the echo chamber that is the internet. Especially when it has to do with public health and life and death. It is easier to oppose misinformation in social media and a forum. But what about real life? I have had to become a rude b**** and cut off and tell off even old men and women and priests, hairdressers and passerbys who were trying to say nonsense about covid But I feel it my duty to never shut up anymore when hearing misinformation that can literally kill.
Continue to speak up. It's the only way to counteract bad information or information that's manipulated for an agenda.
Also taking the figure that he provided that 70% of COVID-19 deaths in TX are from people 65+ that means that 30% of deaths are middle aged and younger. There are about 20,000 COVID-19 deaths in TX so that means that more than 6,000 people under 65 have died from COVID-19. While that's better than the 14,000 elderly it's still not something to take comfort in. I saw on a story the other day on the local news here in MN about a 21 year old that died from COVID-19 that nationally around 26,000 people in their 20's have died from COVID-19.
Just got word I’ll be getting vaccine in next 3ish weeks. Already got sick so kinda moot but perhaps for potential reinfection
Which? Phizer or Modena? How can they go ahead with the vaccination of healthcare workers before the safety data hasn't been released yet. The company itself doesn't even know them yet, let alone the CDC.
No clue. Prior to FDA approval these vaccines go through extensive and phases. Don’t know what phase this is in. Gonna assume, yolo
