Dem leaders warn liberal rhetoric could blow Georgia races

This is VERY misleading. Electronic ballots were changed to the tune of more than 6,000 and that's because the clerk had them setup to go to the wrong person. This is an easy to dupe system and if it happened once, we need to know if it happened again. No one here is pushing what the article is "debunking" because it's not actually examining the real issues that were found with the ballots. See, this is a classic example of attacking a strawman. Ignore the nuance and attack a specific wording that is going around.

Look up false light and strawman and realize the media does this constantly because they have a political axe to grind.

 

You're cherry picking. And it's plainly obvious.

But hey I guess Biden has nothing to worry about. Deep down you're spending time on this because you're scared and you know where there is smoke there is fire. Better go help his legal fund and stop wasting time.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/dhs-breaks-from-trump-2020-election-most-secure-in-history-2020-11

 

Biden really has nothing to worry about. The courts aren't going to overturn anywhere near the amount of votes for Trump to even remotely believe he has a chance. The only chance Trump has is convincing GOP state legislators to change electors which would be a purely political move not based in court decisions and evidence but rather a partisan president convincing partisan state legislators.

 

Stacy is youthful. I had Manchin on my mind who was the one with the quotes.
How about ' Manchin type dems', who won't open his mind to anything. Biden has, for example met with Jesuits will increase Refugees even ran on some progressive agendas.
So I will now not say old dems But Manchindems

 

So it's not about old dems it's just the ones you don't like.

Do you live in West Virginia?

Should Manchin be beholden to you or the people of his state?

Do you know his voting record.

Who else are the Manchindems?

You don't like a big tent party?

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/rpb-adlertrump/covering-trump-the-reuters-way-idUSKBN15F276

Maybe it's time to take a break from social media, forums, and youtube videos and go outside and enjoy the outside. You may of read too much in a short amount of time and it's ****ed with your head.

 

I don't think he answers to the people. Like most politicians today, he listens to his donors such as his daughter who is the CEO of a fortune 500 pharmaceutical company. Watch happens to people like Joe Machine after he retires his seat. Watch how he becomes a board member of a company he helped as a senator.

He wins elections through the power of incumbency where any primary challenger is immediately drowned out by money and the advantages of being an incumbent.

 

Evidently he does he has been reelected several times in a deep red state.

I don't care if he listens to his daughter just because she is the CEO of fortune 5 company, why would that disqualify anyone.

What has Manchin done for his daughter or benefited from her?

Thats why the republican party will always be one step away from taking control because of these purity test, would like him to be pure and have 2 republican Senators from WV?

 

Ya let's just shut up about corporate influence of our politicians that resulted in 50 years of neo-liberalism policies that has resulted in the rampant debt crisis of middle class America.

 

Ok let's do that.

Or how about we stop trying to shoehorn that into every conversation about a candidate who does not meet your purity test.

Simple question would you rather have another Republican senator or Joe Manchin?

You sure have been throwing neo liberalism around a lot this week, is that trending on twitter?

 

Because I thing ignoring these things about long time establiment politicians is what allows this status quo to proceed.

Don't believe me. Establiment politicians usually during primary season and during the time before an election will through some lose change at progressives talking about how they will have some progressive cabinet members and look hard into the public option etc. Now see how hard Democrats fight for these things after an election.

They know that progressive rhetoric increases turnout of the Democrat core base(young people and minorities). But they also don't want to fight for these ideas when in actual power because they don't want to upset their pharmaceutical and health insurance lobbyists.

 

Nobody is ignoring anything.

And can you answer my question?

Progressive rhetoric did not increase turnout for minorities and young people are not the Democratic base.

It's becoming clear you just want to vent today.

 

Yes people are ignoring things. Especially when they hold water for people like Joe Manchin just because he has a (D) infront of his name.

 

Answer the question.

would you rather have another republican senator in congress.

 

I would rather have a Democrat who doesn't cower in fear in expressing their policies in nuance as soon as a republican says "that's communist". It's a self fulfilling prophecy for establishment Dems. Never defend progressive ideas with actual explinations and then act as if the country is scared of them. Yes, if you don't explain them and just respond "I'm not Bernie Sanders", you are playing right in the hands of GOP framing.

But part of me believes that these establishment status quo Dems are content with the GOP framing progressive ideas as communist because then they can pretend it's a losing cause to fight for these ideas.

 

**** Charles Koch and his dead brother...they are a huge reason for the way we are today and why our health care is so terrible.

 

Yeah but he wants you to forgive him and remember him fondly. Can't you just find in your heart to...ahahaha no.