France under attack by Islamists (including Erdogan)

No.... the article clearly says it using an example from the books Jesus Wars, and Dark Passages from the author on the "the bible is violent side". I would imagine you would need to look into those books for more specific examples.

Again.... all you are doing is proving that it's how you interpret it..... And who decides how you interpret it?

 

And some were committed by refugees with low income families.

 

The Quran contains dozens of passages openly advocating for religious murder and attacking non-believers, so it's not up to interpretation.
You either haven't read the Quran or are dishonest here.

But it still proves the point that it isn't about growing up in a war-torn country or having low wealth, which the person I replied to made out to be the decisive factor.

 

And the Old Testament advocates genocide against non believers yet not all Christians are extremists like how all Muslims aren't extremists because some don't literally interpret it that way....

Wahhabism Islam is the equivalent of extreme Christian fundamentalism because it relies on literal interpretation. The Saudis (the US's forever ally) spread it throughout the region. Obviously this an example of modern times.

Like I keep saying... these things happen in long cycles. The West is in a dark age while the East is having a renaissance then it shifts.

Well sure.... it shows it's complicated. But I imagine there are more poor, uneducated extremists than educated, wealthier ones simply because most of the Muslims world is poor.

 

Now you're just talking about catholicism... It was used by the powerful (Bishops, Popes, Kings, Queens, etc.) to rule over the peasants in Western Europe because they were uneducated, and didn't know how to read... I thought this was obvious...

Took a while before the protestants challenged the elite on the actual content of the bible during reformation, which goes back to Greek Orthodox christianity and basically as close to the original bible as possible. The catholic church and the Vatican (Roman catholics) were questioned of their "divine" authority over the people, but it took a very long time. Again, catholicism relies heavily on people's ignorance.

 

The old testament doesn't advocate genocide against nonbelievers. Please stop spreading false knowledge...

In the old testament, God either gave the order or committed the genocide himself and there were very specific reasons why. Those were always contextual as many parts of the bible flows like a story being told. Especially when genocide is involved.

Just pure false equivalency here... Wahhabism turning out violent Muslims doesn't mean Christian fundamentalism is also violent.

 

LOL......Still Christianity in spite of your obvious anti Catholicism bias. Christian = follower of christ. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So Protestants never committed atrocities in the name of Protestant god? Obviously you think Protestant god is real and Catholic god is fake, that never caused any troubles? Never tried converting indigenous populations? Yall never burned or hanged or tortured anyone? Never any witches or nothing? Just a big coincidence that slavery in the US occurred in what we refer to as the Bible Belt? How'd those protestants justify their slavery again? I thought this was obvious.....

All religions do.....

 

I don't have bias. This is just plain history.

Yes, there have been self-proclaimed christians, hijacking religion for their own benefit and using it to commit genocide, etc. The benefit is obvious as it directly attributes to the well-being of the self-proclaimed believer.

In the case of an Islamist, they're clearly not hijacking Islam to commit their violent acts. The example of Muhammed is why so many down-to-earth Muslims become radicalized to commit atrocious acts, because when they discover that their religion is violent they become easily convinced to carry out those acts.

 

You don't follow Christ - he carries you.

 

Hey, he was an early superstar.

 

Updates on the attacks from 02/11.

One man team.



Model: Zastava M70, Serbian version of AK.



Pistol and machete.

 

That's a relief, would've been frightening if armed suspects escaped and planned their next attack somewhere under the radar.

 

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1758506/world
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw...aid-flats-homes-over-vienna-attack/a-55515747
https://m.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/pannen-serie-behoerden-wussten-von-gefahr/453329070

 

Had several raids here in Germany after the Austria attack, which are apparently connected to the breh.
One guy even was arrested, with police saying he was in late-stage preparations for a terror attack.

 

How long do they put these dudes in prison ?
There should be a special law for religious fanatics who planned to do random violence

 

Checked and in most cases it's been 3-5 years, in rare cases up to 10.

Pretty low in my opinion, these dudes are basically a threat for life and 3-5 years is nothing. Also a lot of them are further radicalized in prison, leading to the opposite effect of rehabilitation.

 

Well they should lose their citizenship .

 

I am also sorry, I happen to have dear people around me that have been members of the Communist party who immigrated to Europe not because they were persecuted but for economic reasons.

They didn't tell me horrendous stories, but only realistic tales about a country in transformation with of course enough sacrifices.

There were the bad and the good but rarely was there anything that suggested it is the most vile country on the planet.

Spoiler

I also have been studying in China as an international student to see it for myself. The CCP treated me fairly well. (I am no activist for sure but I can critically think, and I have had many issues with the One Child policy which is softening right now.)

It is not because I want to rationalize it, it's part of my history.

I am sure you have your reasons but I do not think you have this kind of closeness to this country and to this party.

Of course I never thought this kind of government, regime if you will, is the perfect system.

And I am not willing to defend Xi if he is a bad leader.

And I do think the One Party system is overwhelmed with governing so many people and it makes tons of mistakes one should not make.

And I think it is in the unique situation that you have more than 4-5 ethnicities that want to break out and establish their own country and not counting the HK and Taiwan drama.

Although you have 30 million Christians in the country, a big number, Chinese people believe in Confucius and the philosophies of some scholars. Most do not believe in any religion other than monie making.

Peace out.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/europe/biontech-pfizer-vaccine-team-couple-intl/index.html

A Turkish couple with german citizenship find the most promising treatment to covid19 so far,

but losers of the society living on the internet marginal bubble will use other losers as an example to bash the entire muslims ¡

 

Not a single person here has bashed the entirety of Muslims, but nice straw man.

Back to the real topic:
Berlin schools held a minute of silence last week to pay a tribute to the French teacher and the Austrian attack.

In multiple schools, several Muslim kids boycotted the event and in some cases even yelled out during the minute of silence, saying the teacher deserved it for mocking the prophet. One kid also threatened his female teacher and said she'll be next.
A social group consisting of Imams and Rabbis attended some events and spoke to these individuals, but even after talks these kids wouldn't back down.

Shows how widespread this problem is, terrorist philosophy has even entered schools and little children.