No kidding black support for Biden would be down compared to Obama. I mean, you don't need to cite an NBC exit poll to know that. Good luck with these numbers in 2024 when you don't have Kanye, Lil Wayne, and Ice Cube endorsing you.
In terms of the election, the goal isn’t to win a higher percentage of black male voters. The goal is to get more Black people to vote, because they will overwhelmingly vote blue. If you want to see if the Democratic strategy worked or not, the relevant statistic to look at is the number of Black voters for Dems divided by the total number of eligible voters vs the number of Black voters for Republicans divided by the total number of eligible voters. And then look at how that differential changed this election year.
overall % went down in major way, especially in swing areas https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...anics-despite-conventional-wisdom-ncna1245787 Perceptions of Trump as racist seem to be a driving force pushing whites away. Why is it the opposite for those he's purportedly being racist against? It's called the bubble effect - those here and avid watchers of CNN think they're onto something with the whole racist narrative but really the narrative is already written, reality comes 2nd. Minorities who reached out to CNN about wanting to talk about why they're voting for Trump but weren't let on the air. White guilt won the election but the important thing is this... in 4 years, if the same people are complaining about the same problems, as they did after 8 years of Obama when BLM started violently protesting in 2016 the same time they did in 2020, who will be to blame ? It will always be someone else as the Jussie Smolelts of the world never take personal accountability, and why some problems are never solved. When healthcare and school are free, companies forced to hire based on affirmative action and diversity, how will the heavily taxed capable be incentivized to stay more than 6 months on shore? Tesla moved from California to Texas for a reason, and if Kamala is in charge, can they afford to live in the US? It's a chain affect in place.
Im convinced it has less to do with African American support and more to do with Trumps strongman appeal to (insecure) macho men... which knows no race. I know plenty of Hispanic men that like him because they like to think they are tough guys... and they also have been here long enough to have views on immigration that might surprise. And we all know white men between 35 and 60 have all kinds of insecurity issues and are Trumps primary base voters. So I wouldn’t read too much into it. If you ran Biden again vs Nikki Haley it’s perfectly within reason to believe those minority men voters who went for Trump would like Biden more.
Wait am I on ignore !?! I put about 50 of you maggots on iggy yesterday and I believe in striking first and striking hard so don’t go there
I have greater confidence in people of color than that. You denigrating people of color is unwarranted here . Disgusting!
The link you posted is pre-election. I thought this thread is a response to actual election results. Once the full data is in, we can look at whether Dems or Republicans benefited more from higher Black voter turnout.
You obviously have reading comprehension. Male insecurity doesn’t see color. If you want to argue that Trump is actually a Mr. Rogers puppy cuddling sweetheart who does NOT appeal to people who like strongmen then have that debate with me. If you want to try and troll me into fake outrage that you ignorantly interpreted that I believe Black and Brown men are more prone to toxic masculinity then you are an idiot and wasting your time. Go troll on a Trump Reddit forum.
Yawn, keep deflecting because you can't handle reality outside your bubble https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...lection-results-prove-density-destiny/617027/ The slight but significant depolarization of race didn’t happen out of nowhere. As the pollster David Shor told New York magazine in July, Black voters trended Republican in 2016, while Latino voters also moved right in some battleground states. “In 2018, I think it’s absolutely clear that, relative to the rest of the country, nonwhite voters trended Republican,” he said. “We’re seeing this in 2020 polling, too. I think there’s a lot of denial about this fact.” After this election, the trend may be harder to deny. The depolarization of race will make it harder for Democrats to count on demography as a glide path to a permanent majority. It should make them think hard about how a president they excoriate as a white supremacist somehow grew his support among nonwhite Americans. --- That's kind of the mental laziness so many here show on a daily basis. everytime they hear a point they don't like, it's racism or white supremacy. this is picked up by th emainstream media and pushes many moderates to vote for trump. there is no way trump should have had 71 million votes, but he did, primarily because of the media focus on semantics and democrat's inability to civilly engage. You had entire cities burnt to the ground because of criminals who were doing criminal things... why do you think brionna taylor had a warrant with her name and address on it? Ever read the actual details? There was no racism involved whatsoever , the real world could see this, but the media and the mob were so desperate to make it about race... moderates had to move away
I will say one underrated reason for Biden's win is that he is in fact a white male. Unfortunately, there were people who refused to vote for Obama or Hillary because of this reason. You would think there will be a woman or minority Republican presidential candidate soon. I'm curious to see how that would turn out, especially if they were going against Biden. My guess is an extreme social conservative would have a big drop off in turnout from Trump but a more moderate Republican minority/woman could steal quite a few votes from Democrats.
I'm staying focused on the original point you made -- Biden won on the strength of the white male vote and therefore did not benefit from higher black voter turnout. Either acknowledge you no longer agree with that, or defend your position. Don't deflect. There are a variety of reasons, some of which pointed out in the Atlantic article you linked to, that explain why a higher percentage of Black voters may have voted for Trump in 2020. As a matter of mathematical logic, it simply does not follow that higher Black turnout helped Trump more than Biden.
