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France under attack by Islamists (including Erdogan)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. KingCheetah

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    Khabib attacks Macron over Islam comments: ‘May the Almighty disfigure the face of this creature’

    He wrote: “May the Almighty disfigure the face of this creature and all its followers, who, under the slogan of freedom of speech, offend the feelings of more than one and a half billion Muslim believers. May the Almighty humiliate them in this life, and in the next. Allah is quick in calculation and you will see it.

    “We are Muslims, we love our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) more than our mothers, fathers, children, wives and all other people close to our hearts. Believe me, these provocations will come back to them, the end is always for the God-fearing.”

    Khabib added verse 33:57 from the Quran, which said: “Indeed, those who revile Allah and His Messenger, Allah cursed in this world and in the Hereafter and prepared for them humiliating torments.”

    https://news.google.com/articles/CA...CAowzdp7ML-3CTC8yxU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Message in a bottle
     
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    If anyone thinks that this is just a few crazies going crazy, you are wrong.

    As I have always said - connected tissue - the crazies who commit the murders are just the tip of the iceberg, but there is a huge percentage of Muslims who silently or openly endorse murders over cartoons. Islam is not a religion of peace. It's an ideology built on intolerance, by design. Those Muslims who fortunately decide to be peaceful and tolerant are peaceful and tolerant despite the ideology of Islam, not because of it.

    (In the meantime, another priest got attacked (shot) in front of his church in France. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/31/europe/france-shooting-priest-lyon-scli-intl/index.html)

    Make no mistake, this is a monumental struggle of good vs. evil, which will continue for longer than we live.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ir-mohamad-macron-charlie-hebdo-b1424838.html

    Muslims have a right to ‘kill millions of French people' over past actions, former Malaysian PM suggests
    Former leader criticises Macron over defence of controversial Charlie Hebdo cartoons
     
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    Looks like there has now been an attack on a synagogue in Vienna. And 74% of Muslims in France say that their religion is above the law.

    Don't say I haven't been warning you.
     
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    They either acculturate or they need to get out.

    I am a supporter of immigration and giving people opportunities, but this is absurd and the truth is, that if this was going on in the USA, it would not be tolerated. The USA is better with immigrants in my experience, but what I have seen in Europe is simply unacceptable. I have seen discrimination against Muslims in Western Europe, but I have also seen lots of criminal behavior by Muslims in places like London and Paris and parts of Sweden and even Norway. I have seen groups of Muslim men go up to single women and grab and grope them. I have seen Muslim immigrants hitting old people in the streets.

    I do not have a great solution, and I wish that I could say that it is as simple as Muslims being picked on.... but it isn't. I have seen and heard many Muslims express ZERO desire to become French or German or English.... they want the money they receive, and they then look down upon those that are French, German and English as being non believers.

    Any defense at all of those idiots that killed the cartoonists or the supporters of the murders are disgusting and out of bounds.
     
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    The immigration thread didn't get any traction during the past weeks, so my update there went under the radar.

    Imma post the comment here since it's important for this topic:

    German police released new crime statistics for 2015-2019 and they are quite shocking:

    Although asylum seekers only make up 1/50th of the German population, they committed 13.3% of assaults with grievous bodily harm and 14.9% of murder&homicide since 2015.

    This is absolutely nuts and shows how severe the recent immigration issues have become, politicians have really failed us.
     
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    Is the failure allowing in asylum seekers, or not doing a better job integrating the asylum seekers into society to keep the number that turn to crime must lower?
     
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    We're under attack.
     
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    They honestly have it pretty good in most of Germany and have access to German language and culture courses (my sister in law was a teacher for one of these), priority rights for apprenticeships and jobs, but it's just a fact that many of these people don't give a flying F about our values or integration.

    Several of the refugees in my sis in law's class for example weren't willing to shake her hand and looked down on her, simply because she was a woman and is seen as trash in their culture. I've also seen refugee wives here having to carry their husband's grocery bags while walking behind their men.

    I also first-hand know several refugees that vocally complain about our culture and tell people to stop celebrating Christmas or that we are fools for not following Islam.

    Especially with the youth and young adult males you'll see them ganging up on others and behaving like total dicks, harassing females etc, you have these rape and assault cases daily here, also them threatening police.

    Yes integration isn't handled perfectly, but a large number of refugees are just bad apples and will never accept our cultural norms or behave.
     
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    Is that near your place?
    Stay safe, breh.
     
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    The fact that immigration as a policy is a partisan debate is ridiculous. Border shutdowns in a radically left wing nation should be a warning sign. Nobody wants to validate any position that echoes the right wing, its so frustrating to see.
     
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    Pretty sure you can hear him shout allahu ackbar.
     
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    I see. It is just a matter of setting a hard cap for many refugees are accepted, or is there a feasible screening process by which those who are against liberal values can be rejected?
     
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    It should be a red flag when the majority of asylum seekers are young adult men without families.
     
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    An event has to prove that religion is incorrect or correct

    1. Either real religious people come back to the world and prove that they are really super natural
    2. Advanced humanoid aliens appear around the world and explain to us that these religious figures were just them and humans were just a biological cross between them and ancient monkeys
     
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    Can we just have them draw cartoons?

    Please draw the following.

    1. a tree
    2. a dog
    3. a prophet

    look at the pictures they draw
     
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    We got into the majority of this mess because Merkel basically invited refugees to come to Germany and refused to close borders, going against demands of several politicians and party members.

    So during the first refugee wave where a million+ plus flooded the borders, we actually did ZERO background checks and let everyone in, even people without a passport.
    A friend of mine is a social worker and says he basically daily had cases where refugees were to visit his office but vanished and were never heard from again.

    It's better now, but seeing as there are already millions in, it's way too late.

    Regarding refugees losing their cases and being legally required to leave, there's an insane amount of loopholes that gets abused.
    For example, in a lot of cases the refugees are given an extraction date and therefore vanish on the day of their extraction. Another tactic is to say you are feeling really ill in order to avoid extraction on that day, afterwards they are never heard from again.

    You can also appeal the court decision basically an infinite number of times, so a lot of these people are in a legal limbo for years and never have to leave.

    Then, especially in the case of African countries, the governments simply refuse to take back the refugee and leave Germany in a moral dilemma where they aren't willing to just send em off.
     
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