What Philosophy Did The Fathers Use As A Basis For Constitutional Rights?

Thats inaccurate - some info on abolition dates by country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom.

 

you must be a lot of fun at a party

 

Not really. That points out partial abolition of slavery around the World by the time of the Constitution but it doesn't contradict that slavery at the time of the writing of the US Constitution was still legal in most countries and colonies. The UK didn't formally abolish slavery until 1834, France not until 1848 and Spain not until 1867. Obviously the US in 1865.

That timeline shows that legal slavery still persisted well into the 20th Century.

 

You claimed slavery was widely accepted throughout the world at the establishment of the US and that it was the norm in the late 19th century - both claims are not true and the data presented shows that.

 

How did you know? Have we met at a party before?

 

Your own link shows that slavery was practiced in most of the World at the time of writing of the Constitution, 1789. It was banned in some places but overall was widely accepted.

EDIT. I just rechecked my original post and I see that I wrote "the norm in the late 19th Century" My mistake meant the late "18th Century."

 

Russia, Ottoman Empire, China, and many European countries had banned or limited slavery by the end of the18th century. It was no longer widely accepted and total abolition swiftly follwed by the early 19th century. In fact US was one of the last big countries to abolish slavery within its borders

 

The link you provided said slavery was practiced in China into the 20th Century. My family has stories about people being held in servitude during the past Century.

Also to add total abolition didn't follow swiftly in the early 19th Century. As noted France and the UK didn't abolish slavery until more than a third of the 19th Century had passed.

 

We can keep on going in circles around here but I will agree that many countries had abolished slavery by the late 18th Century. That said your own link shows that this wasn't anywhere universal and several of the major countries had legal slavery at the time of the writing of the Constitution.

 

We are talking about the laws not necessarily the practice. Slavery still exist even today but its illegal in almost the entire world.

I just dont see the facts that support your position.
- In China, slavery was initially abolished in 1368, and practice declined thereafter (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_China)
-1772 saw the emancipation of all slaves in England and Wales, and within scotland in 1799. In 1807 the UK abolished slave trading within its empire and in 1833 the emancipation of all slaves.
- In France, slavery was abolished in 14th century and in 1794 it was abolished in all French colonies and territories

The US held on to slavery for so long for its economic benefit to the south and its cotton plantations, and, went to war for the same reason

 

I didn't say that they don't deserve respect or that it hasn't been amended.

I said that to me I find it VERY peculiar that some (many) americans I see in the media seem fixated on the original consitution.
Like "we can't stop bearing arms it was in the original constitution"!

Or like in the articles I have been reading that there are judges who are "originists" who want to interpret the consitution as the way it was written at the time.

That's just my impression for a long time now. It's not meant to be offensive just my observation.
Like for example here we change the constitution very often when there are problems and noone says "oh what those who wrote it would think?".
Also in France they don't think "oh what the revolutionists would think if we changed the consitution?"

Anyway ..

 

What would Marie Antoinette think?