Black Men under the age of 35 the hidden Trump voters that polls are not picking up

I first started reading/posting in D&D way back in the Iraq war buildup, 2002ish. Back then it was at least an even split liberals vs conservative, or majority conservative.

Once the war turned into a massively expensive boondoggle and no WMD found, there were far fewer conservatives posting takes. Got even worse after the blue wave in 2008.

Some of the really dedicated lifetime trolls like texxx and TJ will resurface around elections and then ghost again.

Pretty weird that the poo-flinging political section of a Texas sports BBS is majority liberal, but... here we are.

Sorry for going OT

 

So blacks are just too ignorant to vote for Bernie right?

You keep sounding more and more like a Trumper.

 

Yes, hard for some to believe but we used to have much more actual debate about issues whereas now it's mostly liberals/progressives/moderates with even Republican moderates debating amongst themselves with a few conservative trolls mixed in. Republican doctrine in general (trickle down, tax policy, indifference to the working poor, racism, anti-intellectualism, anti-science) has taken a serious blow in what they like to call the "marketplace of ideas".

 

Some things Republicans will start caring about in 2021:

• The debt
  
• The deficit
  
• Precedents
  
• The troops
  
• Corruption
  
• Dishonesty
  
• Qualifications
  
• Bipartisanship
  
• Federal norms
  
• Playing politics
  
• Being "divisive"
  
• Executive orders
• National security
  
• Americans dying
• states rights
• family values
• stacking courts

 

one of the best flameouts ive ever seen on internet since i started on compuserve in 1995

you wanted so bad to try to steer the narrative and instead got wrecked and took off like a little b

most of us have already voted ..you missed the show its too late now .im glad you were gone and this place was bearable this whole time..post your boston herald endorsement or other trash we need something to light up again your "influence" and timing turned out to be trash and completely transparent.

it was a good laugh
WRECKED

 

Damn you still alive? Praise Allah...thought Covid gotcha...

On the real we all need a break from this big pile of **** called politics.

 

OK, I realize that posting this could be a waste of time as it discusses FACTS but here goes for what it's worth. Apologies in advance for the length of the article:

https://www.theroot.com/the-myth-of-the-black-male-trump-supporter-1845502044

The Myth of the Black Male Trump Supporter

Men Lie. Trump Lies. Numbers Do, Too.

Supposedly, there is a growing contingent of Black men who have been influenced by slavery options expert Kanye West and escaped from the “Democratic plantation.” Because Donald Trump has taken more Black people for rides than anyone since the Lincoln Navigator, there is a mistaken belief that the liar-in-chief has managed to garner a slight but increasing sliver of political support from Black men.

The lie, however, is based on nothing at all.

To understand why this perception exists, one must first acknowledge three indisputable facts:

1. There’s nothing like a Black woman: That is not an opinion. When it comes to politics, no constituency is as consistent as Black female voters. Black women turn out to vote more than Black men and vote for the Democratic Party more than any other demographic of the electorate.
   
   White people are the only race or ethnicity that consistently votes Republican. Over the past 30 years, Black Americans college-educated people, women and every non-white demographic in America have shifted leftward. And, because Black women are statistically more educated, are not men and, by definition, not white, it makes sense that they favor Democratic politics more than any other group.
2. Black men are men: Felony disenfranchisement alone (13 percent of Black men do not have the right to vote) means Black male turnout will always be lower than Black women’s.
   
   And because Black men are, by definition, men, a few will always skew Conservative. Even among the non-white groups that support the Democratic Party, males are more likely to support the GOP. Hispanic men vote for Democrats, but not as much as Hispanic women. The same is true for college-educated white men. And, even though the vast majority of Black men support Democratic candidates, a scant few (around 10-13 percent) always vote for GOP candidates... Well, almost always.
3. Blame Obama: In 2008 and 2012, everyone except white people voted for Barack Obama. Not only did Black voters turn out for the former president in record numbers, but Obama Black voter turnout surpassed white turnout. For eight years, the “Obama coalition” included Black male conservatives who usually supported Republicans. After Obama left office, the Democratic leadership mistakenly assumed the Obama surge was because of the party and not the candidate or the Black voters.
4. Someone fumbled the ball in 2016: Even after Barack Obama proved that, with enough enthusiasm and attention, Black voters could propel a Democratic candidate to victory, the Democratic party somehow didn’t bother focusing on Black voters in 2016. While white, Asian and Hispanic turnout increased, in the 2016 presidential election, for a combination of reasons (disinformation, apathy, a poorly-run campaign, a vice president who garnered as much interest as an empty jar of mayonnaise) Black voters didn’t show up for Hillary Clinton. Michigan’s United Auto Workers Union is the biggest Black employee organization in the entire state but Hilary Clinton didn’t visit a single UAW hall in Michigan during her campaign.
   
   She lost Michigan by less than one half of one percent.

To be fair, that fairy tale came from a true story that was based on a myth. The myth, however, is based on a falsehood, which is based on a misunderstanding that was based on a lie.

Those four facts explain why this misconception exists. According to the Census Bureau, Black male turnout decreased by 6.6 points in the election of 2016 while Black female turnout decreased by 5.7 percentage points. Because all Black turnout decreased, the Trump coalition appears larger. Essentially, no one showed up to the polls in 2016 except the most faithful Democrats and all of the negro conservatives. In reality, Trump just won back the no shape-up-having Black men that had traditionally voted Republican except that one time they voted for Obama.

In fact, Trump earned a smaller percentage of the total Black vote than any president in the last 40 years. Less than Reagan. Less than Romney or McCain. So, yes, Trump got 14 percent of the Black male vote but it was 14 percent of a smaller pool of Black men. In 2004, Bush won 13 percent of the Black male vote, up from eight percent in 2000. Bob Dole got fifteen percent in 1996. George H. W. Bush got thirteen percent in a loss to Bill Clinton. Simply put, Trump got the small contingent of negro conservatives that, aside from Obama, Republicans usually get.

Barack Obama was the unicorn, not Trump.

If every single Black male Trump supporter in 2016 had voted for Hillary Clinton instead, she still would have lost to Donald Trump. Of course, Hillary lost a few battleground states (Michigan, Pennsylvania Wisconsin) by less than one percent, so how can I be so sure?

Well, we could create a complex algorithm that combines the Black voting population in each state with the exit polls. We could come up with a number of electoral college scenarios. We could recall the fact that the 13 percent of Black Trumpers was a small part (about four percent) of the total 2016 electorate and Clinton overperformed with Black men in those battleground states. Or, for the sake of time, we could dismiss the entire argument with a fourth-grade math problem:

What’s 13 percent of four percent?

HB - There's a lot more to this article and I encourage foks here to have a read.

 

I have also noticed some of our Rightwing posters posting less. Most of them were very confident that Trump would win and some were saying in a landslide. I wonder if they’re not posting so much because they are feeling it might not be what they predict.

 

Y’all should quit being rude. Trump losing the election will not stop @MojoMan from posting political cartoons with no context!

 

I don't see where the myth is actually busted.

I agree that it is a myth but this article is all over the place and we really don't know until the final numbers come out.

Interesting stats though.

 

My thing is, if you're gonna take a stance...take a ****ing stance. You can predict what sort of passive aggressive article or tweet he'll post and he'll be like " I'm a libertarian"

I actually have more respect for dumbasses like @MojoMan

 

because they are all shamed. i wouldnt post or delete my moniker too if i were worked over that bad time and again. this board used to be staunch repug and its funny what truth ferreted out. took some wmds and trump but here we are.

as i said to @dachuda86 running this sh*it son. he will be waking up in serbia soon enough and he can chime in

 

Libertarian?

He claimed he was a Democrat.

 

LOLLLL

 

To be fair he said moderate Democrat.

 

We have one poster who would boast about the lower COVID death rates every couple of weeks. I haven't seen any of his reports lately.

 

They were not hidden. All of the black males under 35 in the country spoke at the Republic Convention.