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2020 Presidential Election

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  1. NewRoxFan

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    And, if my math is correct, that's about $9 trillion in debt per justice.
     
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  2. NewRoxFan

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    Gee... I wonder...

     
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    Trolled twitter losers into pumping twitters' censorship of the Hunter Biden story Lol. That's my President!!!
     
  4. peleincubus

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    There is probably about a 60-70% chance from my guess that Trump would able to accurately define satirical. That’s OUR embarrassment of a president.
     
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  5. NewRoxFan

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    trump and his family have been hiding millions of dollars spent at trump properties...

    State Department signals it will keep most details of its spending at Trump’s properties hidden until after election
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...372f30-0f21-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html
     
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    Please tell your President to stop trying to **** his own daughters.
     
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    Lmao! Look at the other kid's faces as Tiffany walks up....
     
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  8. Deckard

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    That is just sick.
     
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    Yet another trump campaign empty promise...

     
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  10. NewRoxFan

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    As trump falls further and further behind...

     
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  11. NewRoxFan

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    Can it get any worse?

     
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    The New York Times editorial board has never before published something like this about an American president. But then we've never faced a moment like this. Please read our plea to defend the United States by voting Donald Trump from office.

    END OUR NATIONAL CRISIS

    The Case Against Donald Trump
    BY THE EDITORIAL BOARD

    Donald Trump’s re-election campaign poses the greatest threat to American democracy since World War II.

    Mr. Trump’s ruinous tenure already has gravely damaged the United States at home and around the world. He has abused the power of his office and denied the legitimacy of his political opponents, shattering the norms that have bound the nation together for generations. He has subsumed the public interest to the profitability of his business and political interests. He has shown a breathtaking disregard for the lives and liberties of Americans. He is a man unworthy of the office he holds.

    The editorial board does not lightly indict a duly elected president. During Mr. Trump’s term, we have called out his racism and his xenophobia. We have critiqued his vandalism of the postwar consensus, a system of alliances and relationships around the globe that cost a great many lives to establish and maintain. We have, again and again, deplored his divisive rhetoric and his malicious attacks on fellow Americans. Yet when the Senate refused to convict the president for obvious abuses of power and obstruction, we counseled his political opponents to focus their outrage on defeating him at the ballot box.

    Nov. 3 can be a turning point. This is an election about the country’s future, and what path its citizens wish to choose.

    The resilience of American democracy has been sorely tested by Mr. Trump’s first term. Four more years would be worse.

    But even as Americans wait to vote in lines that stretch for blocks through their towns and cities, Mr. Trump is engaged in a full-throated assault on the integrity of that essential democratic process. Breaking with all of his modern predecessors, he has refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, suggesting that his victory is the only legitimate outcome, and that if he does not win, he is ready to contest the judgment of the American people in the courts or even on the streets.

    Kathleen Kingsbury, acting editorial page editor, wrote about the editorial board’s verdict on Donald Trump's presidency in a special edition of our Opinion Today newsletter. You can read it here.

    The enormity and variety of Mr.Trump’s misdeeds can feel overwhelming. Repetition has dulled the sense of outrage, and the accumulation of new outrages leaves little time to dwell on the particulars. This is the moment when Americans must recover that sense of outrage.

    It is the purpose of this special section of the Sunday Review to remind readers why Mr. Trump is unfit to lead the nation. It includes a series of essays focused on the Trump administration’s rampant corruption, celebrations of violence, gross negligence with the public’s health and incompetent statecraft. A selection of iconic images highlights the president’s record on issues like climate, immigration, women’s rights and race. And alongside our judgment of Mr. Trump, we are publishing, in their own words, the damning judgments of men and women who had served in his administration.

    The urgency of these essays speaks for itself. The repudiation of Mr. Trump is the first step in repairing the damage he has done. But even as we write these words, Mr. Trump is salting the field — and even if he loses, reconstruction will require many years and tears.

    Mr. Trump stands without any real rivals as the worst American president in modern history. In 2016, his bitter account of the nation’s ailments struck a chord with many voters. But the lesson of the last four years is that he cannot solve the nation’s pressing problems because he is the nation’s most pressing problem.

    He is a racist demagogue presiding over an increasingly diverse country; an isolationist in an interconnected world; a showman forever boasting about things he has never done, and promising to do things he never will.

    He has shown no aptitude for building, but he has managed to do a great deal of damage. He is just the man for knocking things down.

    As the world runs out of time to confront climate change, Mr. Trump has denied the need for action, abandoned international cooperation and attacked efforts to limit emissions.

    He has mounted a cruel crackdown on both legal and illegal immigration without proposing a sensible policy for determining who should be allowed to come to the United States.

    Obsessed with reversing the achievements of his immediate predecessor, Barack Obama, he has sought to persuade both Congress and the courts to get rid of the Affordable Care Act without proposing any substitute policy to provide Americans with access to affordable health care. During the first three years of his administration, the number of Americans without health insurance increased by 2.3 million — a number that has surely grown again as millions of Americans have lost their jobs this year.

    He campaigned as a champion of ordinary workers, but he has governed on behalf of the wealthy. He promised an increase in the federal minimum wage and fresh investment in infrastructure; he delivered a round of tax cuts that mostly benefited rich people. He has indiscriminately erased regulations, and answered the prayers of corporations by suspending enforcement of rules he could not easily erase. Under his leadership, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has stopped trying to protect consumers and the Environmental Protection Agency has stopped trying to protect the environment.

    He has strained longstanding alliances while embracing dictators like North Korea’s Kim Jong-un and Russia’s Vladimir Putin, whom Mr. Trump treats with a degree of warmth and deference that defies explanation. He walked away from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a strategic agreement among China’s neighbors intended to pressure China to conform to international standards. In its place, Mr. Trump has conducted a tit-for-tat trade war, imposing billions of dollars in tariffs — taxes that are actually paid by Americans — without extracting significant concessions from China.

    Mr. Trump’s inadequacies as a leader have been on particularly painful display during the coronavirus pandemic. Instead of working to save lives, Mr. Trump has treated the pandemic as a public relations problem. He lied about the danger, challenged the expertise of public health officials and resisted the implementation of necessary precautions; he is still trying to force the resumption of economic activity without bringing the virus under control.

    As the economy pancaked, he signed an initial round of aid for Americans who lost their jobs. Then the stock market rebounded and, even though millions remained out of work, Mr. Trump lost interest in their plight.
     
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    In September, he declared that the virus “affects virtually nobody” the day before the death toll from the disease in the United States topped 200,000.

    Nine days later, Mr. Trump fell ill.

    The foundations of American civil society were crumbling before Mr. Trump rode down the escalator of Trump Tower in June 2015 to announce his presidential campaign. But he has intensified the worst tendencies in American politics: Under his leadership, the nation has grown more polarized, more paranoid and meaner.

    He has pitted Americans against each other, mastering new broadcast media like Twitter and Facebook to rally his supporters around a virtual bonfire of grievances and to flood the public square with lies, disinformation and propaganda. He is relentless in his denigration of opponents and reluctant to condemn violence by those he regards as allies. At the first presidential debate in September, Mr. Trump was asked to condemn white supremacists. He responded by instructing one violent gang, the Proud Boys, to “stand back and stand by.”

    He has undermined faith in government as a vehicle for mediating differences and arriving at compromises. He demands absolute loyalty from government officials, without regard to the public interest. He is openly contemptuous of expertise.

    And he has mounted an assault on the rule of law, wielding his authority as an instrument to secure his own power and to punish political opponents. In June, his administration tear-gassed and cleared peaceful protesters from a street in front of the White House so Mr. Trump could pose with a book he does not read in front of a church he does not attend.

    The full scope of his misconduct may take decades to come to light. But what is already known is sufficiently shocking:

    He has resisted lawful oversight by the other branches of the federal government. The administration routinely defies court orders, and Mr. Trump has repeatedly directed administration officials not to testify before Congress or to provide documents, notably including Mr. Trump’s tax returns.

    With the help of Attorney General William Barr, he has shielded loyal aides from justice. In May, the Justice Department said it would drop the prosecution of Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn even though Mr. Flynn had pleaded guilty to lying to the F.B.I. In July, Mr. Trump commuted the sentence of another former aide, Roger Stone, who was convicted of obstructing a federal investigation of Mr. Trump’s 2016 election campaign. Senator Mitt Romney, Republican of Utah, rightly condemned the commutation as an act of “unprecedented, historic corruption.”

    Last year, Mr. Trump pressured the Ukrainian government to announce an investigation of his main political rival, Joe Biden, and then directed administration officials to obstruct a congressional inquiry of his actions. In December 2019, the House of Representatives voted to impeach Mr. Trump for high crimes and misdemeanors. But Senate Republicans, excepting Mr. Romney, voted to acquit the president, ignoring Mr. Trump’s corruption to press ahead with the project of filling the benches of the federal judiciary with young, conservative lawyers as a firewall against majority rule.

    Now, with other Republican leaders, Mr. Trump is mounting an aggressive campaign to reduce the number of Americans who vote and the number of ballots that are counted.

    The president, who has long spread baseless charges of widespread voter fraud, has intensified his rhetorical attacks in recent months, especially on ballots submitted by mail. “The Nov 3rd Election result may NEVER BE ACCURATELY DETERMINED,” he tweeted. The president himself has voted by mail, and there is no evidence to support his claims. But the disinformation campaign serves as a rationale for purging voter rolls, closing polling places, tossing absentee ballots and otherwise impeding Americans from exercising the right to vote.

    It is an intolerable assault on the very foundations of the American experiment in government by the people.

    Other modern presidents have behaved illegally or made catastrophic decisions. Richard Nixon used the power of the state against his political opponents. Ronald Reagan ignored the spread of AIDS. Bill Clinton was impeached for lying and obstruction of justice. George W. Bush took the nation to war under false pretenses.

    Mr. Trump has outstripped decades of presidential wrongdoing in a single term.

    Frederick Douglass lamented during another of the nation’s dark hours, the presidency of Andrew Johnson, “We ought to have our government so shaped that even when in the hands of a bad man, we shall be safe.” But that is not the nature of our democracy. The implicit optimism of American democracy is that the health of the Republic rests on the judgment of the electorate and the integrity of those voters choose.

    Mr. Trump is a man of no integrity. He has repeatedly violated his oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    Now, in this moment of peril, it falls to the American people — even those who would prefer a Republican president — to preserve, protect and defend the United States by voting.
     
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  14. Rashmon

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    This judge could force dip$hit to pull a reverse-Comey and release unredacted Mueller report...

    Judge wants to know if Trump is backing off Russia probe declassification

    A federal judge demanded on Friday that the White House counsel’s office confirm directly with President Donald Trump whether he stands by a series public statements he made declaring that he’d declassified all information related to the probe of alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

    After news outlets suing for access to government records from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation reported Trump’s statements to the court, a Justice Department official said he’d checked with the White House counsel’s office and officials there said the president’s statements were not intended to effect any further release of information.

    But at a hearing Friday, U.S. District Court Judge Reggie Walton said the secondhand word of an unnamed official in the White House counsel’s office wasn’t good enough to countermand what appeared to be a series of clear statements from Trump that he wanted all the information out.

    “I think the American public has a right to rely upon what the president says about what his intent is,” said Walton, an appointee of President George W. Bush. “It seems to me that when a president makes an unambiguous statement of what his intent is, I can’t rely upon White House counsel saying, 'Well, that was not his intent.' Maybe White House counsel talked to the president. Maybe they didn’t, but I can’t tell.”

    The 25-minute telephone hearing include the kinds of exchanges between judges and government lawyers that would have been considered stunning under any other president, but have become commonplace under Trump. Walton said, in essence, that he did not trust that the White House counsel’s office was accurately relaying the president’s view.

    Justice Department attorney Courtney Enlow said the statements of the lawyers involved were entitled to a “presumption of regularity,” essentially that government officials should be taken at their word.

    “That should end the matter,” she said.

    But the judge suggested such deference wasn’t justified because the president himself had signaled that some rogue elements in the government were resisting his orders.

    “How do I know that the statements made by White House counsel are in fact the position of the president? ... How can I assume White House counsel is, in fact, acting at the direction of the president? How can I assume that?” Walton asked, pointing to an interview the president did last Friday with radio host Rush Limbaugh.

    “I’ve fully declassified everything. Everything’s been declassified. They have so much information,” Trump told Limbaugh.

    Earlier last week, Trump sent a tweet that seemed to instruct that all information related to the Russia probe be made public.

    "I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax," Trump wrote. "Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!"

    The comments prompted lawyers for CNN and BuzzFeed pursuing Freedom of Information Act lawsuits for the complete Mueller report and related documents to ask the judge to consider releasing information previously withheld on national security or other grounds.

    But Enlow said Friday that in Trump’s recent tweets and comment he was referring to some prior declassification and wasn’t ordering the release of anything new.

    “These statements are not clear directives to declassify,” she said. “They’re stated in the past tense.”

    An attorney for BuzzFeed, Matthew Topic, said the White House counsel’s office seemed to be putting its spin on what the president said.

    “It really sounded like what we got was White House counsel’s interpretation of these tweets,” Topic said. “If we look at these words, they are very unambiguous. He says: no redactions.”

    Walton did not say specifically what he plans to do after getting further information from the government next week, but he has been pushing to get most of the releasable information in the FBI reports from the Mueller probe out before the presidential election next month. Thousands of pages of interview reports have already been made public along with the vast majority of the Mueller report.

    dip$hit can't have it both ways. His tweets are either "official statements" or "bullshit." The judge is going to make him choose.
     
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    b**** t*** Billy...Save me nao, loser!!! You're choking at the bottom of the 9th!
     
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    this is just too funny. Can’t even get his most adamant boot lickers names right.
     
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    To avoid arrest and jail time?

     
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    I don't get it man. The dude is a raging sociopath who doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself. All he does is toot his horn, spread a load of horse shi* and pretend we are around the corner with Coronavirus.

    I mean, he's dangerously giving all these fools at his rallies a false sense that they are fine crowded and Maskless. What kind of man does that? A man who only cares about himself, his money, and his power. He doesn't give a damn about the spread. You know 49 people tested positive today every single minute! That's not good. In fact, this past week somebody died of Covid every 2 minutes. He doesn't give a damn!
    He never shows empathy for any of those poor families who just lost loved ones. It's inhumane really.

    Then the guy is downright stirring up all this domestic violence and not even being outraged when terrorists try to kidnap a Governor. That's disgusting. He's telling states to go to hell! What the hell kind of leader does that? He's a freaking mad man who chooses which states, governors, or color people he will serve. OMG, no leader in any modern country is this crazy.

    Why would you think that's OK? That's disturbing to me.

    Countries are laughing at us. Look at this...



    He's not the only one either!
     
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    No he has to report to his boss. So it would make sense that he would leave the country.
     
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