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Hunter Biden Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 14, 2020.

  1. dachuda86

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    But how do you KNOW that wasn't a shape shifter POSING as Biden?
     
  2. Nook

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    Okay.

    Anything can happen but I wouldn't bet money on that at this point.
     
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  3. dachuda86

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    Rachel Maddow called. She wants her conspiracy theory back.
     
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  4. dachuda86

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    Bi partisan bias isn't enough to say something is true or false. It's irrelevant because most people support one candidate or the other unless you have more in connection with it. You also ignore the fact that this info was vetted by a cyber security advisor and attorney, and his lawyers.

    Obv. this is being done to pin Biden against the ground during an election because of partisan bias. That is obvious. This is also being slow dripped into the public in order to get the most out of it and to keep it from being swept up in one massive effort by social media and the largely left leaning figure heads controlling our mainstream outlets.

    The fact that social media censored this story because of "hacking" is evidence of why they are slow dripping it. There was no hacking. It was legally acquired, as Rudy explains. Unless otherwise proven, all of the ideas I am seeing against this are conjecture and borderline, if not outright, conspiracy theory.
     
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  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Just a few posts earlier you were citing a bias towards a candidate to give the idea that the FBI was corrupt and favoring a candidate.
     
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  6. FranchiseBlade

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    What he mentioned are actually facts. Do you understand what conspiracy theory means?
     
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    You should post the real quote. If you think this story is so important, then stick to the facts.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html


    However, there are two big problems with the narrative presented by Trump and Giuliani, according to activists in Ukraine and others.

    For one thing, Ukrainian prosecutors and anti-corruption advocates who were pushing for an investigation into the dealings of Burisma and its owner, Mykola Zlochevskiy, said the probe had been dormant long before Biden leveled his demand.

    "There was no pressure from anyone from the United States" to close the case against Zlochevskiy, Vitaliy Kasko, who was a deputy prosecutor-general under Shokin and is now first deputy prosecutor-general, told Bloomberg News in May. "It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015," he added.

    Activists say the case had been sabotaged by Shokin himself. As an example, they say two months before Hunter Biden joined Burisma's board, British authorities had requested information from Shokin's office as part of an investigation into alleged money laundering by Zlochevskiy. Shokin ignored them.

    Kaleniuk and AntAC published a detailed timeline of events surrounding the Burisma case, an outline of evidence suggesting that three consecutive chief prosecutors of Ukraine -- first Shokin’s predecessor, then Shokin, and then his successor -- worked to bury it.

    "Ironically, Joe Biden asked Shokin to leave because the prosecutor failed [to pursue] the Burisma investigation, not because Shokin was tough and active with this case," Kaleniuk said.

    Ukrainian prosecutors have described no evidence indicating that Biden sought to help his son by getting Shokin dismissed -- and have suggested that they have not discovered any such evidence.

    But there is a long list of Western organizations, governments, and diplomats, as well as Ukrainian anti-corruption groups, that wanted to see Shokin fired.

    They include the International Monetary Fund, the European Union, the U.S. government, foreign investors, and Ukrainian advocates of reform.
     
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    Tip of the giant mushroom-shaped ice berg about to ruin Biden's life.
     
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  10. AleksandarN

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    Again I said Russia trying to help trump.
    What about the pizza shop where they keep the kids.
     
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    Tip of the giant mushroom-shaped ice berg that will have zero effect on Biden's life or the election because there's nothing to this story.
     
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    From ABC NEWS:
    Barr gives false recounting of Texas voter fraud case in effort to cast doubt on mail-in voting

    An attorney who worked the case says Barr's description was highly inaccurate.

    By Alexander Mallin
    September 4, 2020, 12:08 PM

    Attorney General William Barr gave a false recounting of a voter fraud case in Texas during an interview Wednesday as he sought to bolster his unfounded argument that mass expansions of mail-in voting in 2020 will increase the risk of widespread fraud.

    Barr incorrectly said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer that elections that have been held with mail have found substantial fraud and coercion, before launching into the false account. "For example, we indicted someone in Texas, 1,700 ballots collected, he -- from people who could vote, he made them out and voted for the person he wanted to. OK?"

    Barr added, "That kind of thing happens with mail-in ballots and everyone knows that."

    But Barr's description was not even close to what happened in the case, which was never under the Justice Department's purview in the first place -- according to Andy Chatham, a former assistant district attorney who worked on the investigation in 2017.

    "I was like, 'What? Why would he talk about that case?'" Chatham told ABC News Friday when asked about his reaction to hearing Barr invoke the investigation. "This wasn't a case of voter fraud. This was a case of what we think was a political consultant trying to scam candidates."

    MORE: Attorney General William Barr defends Justice Department against claims of politicization

    In a statement Friday, Justice Department spokeswoman Kerri Kupec acknowledged that Barr's description of the case was incorrect.

    "Prior to his interview, the Attorney General was provided a memo prepared within the Department that contained an inaccurate summary about the case which he relied upon when using the case as an example,” Kupec said.

    The Washington Post first reported the news of Barr's false description of the Texas case.

    In May 2017, Chatham opened the investigation after hearing a host of complaints from Dallas County residents who were notified they would be sent mail-in ballots even though they hadn't requested them. According to the Dallas Morning News, more than 600 mail-in ballots were also identified that bore the signature of 'Jose Rodriguez,' which was believed to be a fake name of an individual who purportedly assisted voters in filling out their ballots.

    Chatham described an exhaustive process that officials in his office ultimately undertook to contact the individual voters and ensure that the mail-in ballots they had sent in were accurate.

    "The statistical percentage of ballots that were returned were almost exactly what the election result was," Chatham said.

    Twenty-eight-year-old Miguel Hernandez was eventually found guilty in the investigation for forging a voter's signature on a mail-in ballot he returned. Chatham described Hernandez as the "fall guy" in the scam, being paid by a still-unknown consultant to contact individuals who had received mail-in ballots and return them so they could potentially be tampered with.

    "He violated the law but not for voting, it was for procuring mail-in ballots under false pretenses," Chatham said. "The other thing that Barr got very wrong about the case is that we knew about this thing before it even happened, and prevented any potentially fraudulent ballots from being cast."

    "It was a tremendous success story for the office," Chatham added.

    MORE: Barr’s removal of career national security official, weeks before election, raises concerns

    Barr's false description of the case comes as officials in the intelligence community are warning Russia is seeking to "amplify" concerns over the integrity of U.S. elections by promoting allegations that mail-in voting will result in rampant fraud.

    Analysts with the Department of Homeland Security’s intelligence arm issued a bulletin to federal and state law enforcement partners Thursday after finding with “high confidence” that “Russian malign influence actors” have targeted the absentee voting process “by spreading disinformation” since at least March.

    Barr's comments mark the second instance this summer that he has spread misinformation regarding a law enforcement matter.

    In July, Barr claimed at an event at the White House that the pilot launch of the 'Operation Legend' law enforcement initiative in Kansas City, Missouri, had yielded "200 arrests" in just two weeks.

    Local officials told the Kansas City Star they were not familiar what he was referring to, and a DOJ official later corrected Barr, saying that he was actually speaking about 200 arrests by both the state and the FBI dating back to December 2019.

    In fact, at that point Operation Legend had only resulted in a single publicly announced arrest in Kansas City.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bar...xas-voter-fraud-case-effort/story?id=72816537
     
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  14. basso

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  16. Amiga

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    How come you are associating US intelligence agencies as her? Conspiracy theories much.
     
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  17. Amiga

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    lol, this is exactly how stupid people are
     
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    First off those intel agencies were used by Russian Intelligence (steel dossier). Secondly, the Biden campaign is not denying any of this . In fact, they called the shop owner and said give us the hard drive because its ours.
     
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    Why would Russian intelligence use American and British intelligence by telling them things that are true that if they came out would show Trump is compromised by Russia?? Makes zero sense.

    Ex: Trump tower Moscow. The dossier specifically notes that Cohen was working with the Kremlin on a deal like this and then it turns out that a letter of intent is produced to prove its true.

    What is the intent of Russian intelligence to give that information to Steele to damage Trump if it’s true??

    Even the Pee Tape while not accurate on the details still pointed to the truth that Trump attended sex shows in Vegas with Cohen and Russian connected figures. How is Russian pointing out that he has a pee fetish good for anything when it just highlights damaging info about Trump that is proven accurate???

    You guys make zero sense and what you are trying to prove about Hunter Biden makes zero sense. Only further highlights Trump and his colleagues willingness to conspire with hostile foreign powers.... how is this good for Trump??

    Help me help you guys here... you sound like morons to be frank.
     

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