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Trump's Platinum Plan is No Different From How Democrats Try To Help Blacks

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Oct 14, 2020.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You font know that. Thats an opinion. And really you're being childish. These aren't really a lot of proposals as much as he is taking credit for things thats happened in his term
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    I don't know what my black grandma-in-law would have done. She did manage to work the private school system to get her son an elite education and then send him to Harvard though.

    But more generally, your implication is that black people are not thinking about schools and jobs and stuff when they are immediately confronted with victimization. Sure. I was held up at gunpoint once, and it did not occur to me at that moment that this wouldn't be happening if the robber had had better employment opportunities. But I also didn't think a cop could help me. Adding another armed person to that interaction might have disrupted a peaceful (but exploitative) business transaction with violence. I mostly lamented I was stupid enough to put myself in a bad situation. But you take a step back and look at a neighborhood where grandmas' homes are being broken into and think about how we can solve it, of course it'll occur to black people just as it does to me -- that you'll have less crime when people have more opportunity for decent honest living. Cops targeting you for fitting a profile doesn't create that opportunity. But a good education or a job you can cherish will.

    And, perhaps more to the point, 90% of black voters aren't buying what Trump is selling. If you think what black people really want for their neighborhoods is more 'law & order', why doesn't Trump's message resonate at all? There is a sliver of Kanye Wests and Pgabriels and Charles Barkleys out there who like it, but the great majority are not embracing Trump's solution.
     
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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Crime in black neighborhoods isnt a campaign topic because black people are not honest about our problems. We want to pretend everything is ok and all our problems are racism
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    That just isn't true. Black communities work on many issues other than just racism. I'm not sure why you keep acting like racism is the only issue black communities worry about. You need to actually do some volunteer work in those communities. They worry about schools, families, avoiding gangs, being ready for jobs, education, college. You are making a claim that simply isn't true. You are either ignorant or you are lying.
     
  5. jiggyfly

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    Not this again.

    Why do you all keep falling for the okie doke.

    He does not care about the topic he just wants to argue.

    And get all up in Bobrek ****.:D
     
  6. jiggyfly

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    Here we go again.
     
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  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Do they talk about crime?

    I didn't say racism is the only we talk about. For instance we talk about jobs and blame our lack of them on racism. If education and jobs comes up we blame education on funding on inner city schools which essentially boils down to racism

    Social justice is the number one black topic in the news. Period. Did you eatch the nba Finals. Do you warch the nfl?
     
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  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I would not harp on this if we weren't talking about racism like its the 60's. Im 45 and have never heard this much talk about racism
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, of course they talk about crime. You have no idea about what they talk about. Racism is a problem and anyone that talks about addressing the problem isn't detracting from other problems that are also addressed. Racism does affect employment, education, crime and everything else. It is an important issue to be addressed.

    That doesn't mean people shouldn't try. It does mean that people face additional challenges.

    You have shown that you don't understand what is talked about in the communities, and so your take comes from that lack of knowledge.
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I live in Fifth Ward Texas bro. Im black i know what people talk about. There is more racism now than ever in my 45 years of life.

    When is the last time you a black politician talk about crime?
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    That is what you claim about who you are and where you live. You aren't working with any groups that are addressing the problem. I can name black politicians from Harris in SC, Obama, Deval Patrick, Kamala Harris, and pretty much any other black politician that you care to name and they talk about crime.

    Why aren't you paying attention and listening when they do?

    Obama's problem was that he didn't talk about racism enough. For the first term of his presidency he barely mentioned it. He talked about it far less than any of the white politicians.
     
  12. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Another stupid pgabs thread.
     
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    "Is there another kind?"

    ---Jack Nicholson as Colonel Jessup, A Few Good Men
     
  14. Xerobull

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    FIFY.

    Trump is a true sociopath and narcissist. He doesn’t give a **** about anything but himself.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    When is the LAST time you heard one of these talk about crimeSimple ass question.

    Im not claiming where i live, im tellling you.

    I do agree that Obama talks about black people taking responsibility, but he had to stop early on in his first presidential campaign because of backlash
     
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    Yeah, he did try...
    Snipped the good. Rest is bad.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...2b0b68-f10f-11ea-b796-2dd09962649c_story.html
    Trump can point to policy initiatives that have benefited Black or other minority groups, including criminal justice reforms that reduced prison sentences for thousands of Black men convicted of nonviolent, drug-related crimes.

    About 4,700 inmates have been released or had their sentences reduced under the First Step Act, an attempt to reverse the lopsided legacy of the drug wars of the 1980s and 1990s, which disproportionately targeted African Americans. But this policy was championed primarily by Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, and former officials said that Trump only agreed to support the measure when told it might boost his low poll numbers with Black voters.

    Months later, when that failed to materialize, Trump “went s---house crazy,” one former official said, yelling at aides, “Why the hell did I do that?”

    Manigault Newman was similarly excoriated when her efforts to boost funding for historically Black colleges failed to deliver better polling numbers for the president, officials said. “You’ve been at this for four months, Omarosa,” Trump said, according to one adviser, “but the numbers haven’t budged.” Manigault Newman did not respond to a request for comment.

    White House officials cited other initiatives aimed at helping people of color, including loan programs targeting minority businesses and the creation of “opportunity zones” in economically distressed communities.

    Trump has pointed most emphatically to historically low Black unemployment rates during his first term, arguing that data show they have fared better under his administration than under Obama or any other president.

    But unemployment statistics are largely driven by broader economic trends, and the early gains of Black workers have been wiped out by the pandemic. Blacks have lost jobs at higher rates than other groups since the economy began to shut down. The jobless rate for Blacks in August was 13 percent, compared with 7.3 percent for Whites — the highest racial disparity in nearly six years.

    Neither prison reform nor minority jobs programs were priorities of Trump’s first term. His
     
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    This week. What's your next insipid queston?
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Who and what was said?
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    Jamie Harrison spoke about it last night.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    What was the topic? Not being a jerk im trying to Google it.

    Edot: i do see Grahm has been running against the protesters in South Carolina
     

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