NEXT GEN Gaming Console, PS5 and Xbox Series X news/upates

We 99'ers need to start charging for our lessons.

 

Spoiler: thicc

 

The 1TB external SSD for Series S and X will be 220$ btw, so with both consoles it's unfortunately really high costs due to the novel technology.

I used an external drive with 4TB for my PS4 and just downloaded most of my games, but with next gen those days are likely over.

 

I wonder how big these games are

 

So far we know the new Spiderman is roughly 100GB, Demon Souls 66GB.
This is roughly the same as current large titles, see RDR2 and COD etc, despite the increased graphics and physics etc they can still keep the game sizes at bay due to the better SSD management.

It should be roughly the same with Series X, but Series S is said to have smaller sizes.

The issue is the OS taking up so much space, the 1TB PS5 SSD for example only gives you 664GB of space, Series S will also not be able to take up anywhere close to the 500GB SSD size.

So realistically, you can in some cases only install like 5-7 games and can't just download your library to have more flexibility.

 

I believe Miles Morales is 50GB, with Spider-Man Remastered being 55GB (which is less than the PS4 version is taking up on my drive - 72GB).

The economical option is going to be keeping games stored on a regular external hard drive and then swapping them onto the internal SSD when you want to play them (or just playing from the external for older BC games, without the speed benefit).

 

You can only use the current hard drives for the PS4 and XBox One games, so you won't be able to store next gen games on anything but the new ssd format they are introducing, and those will also vary by console.

The external HDD solution is only viable for old games, unfortunately.

 

OLED is also 120hz
My older model can do 1080p at 120hz

no 60hz for us supreme Clutchfans

 

Most modern TVs have 120hz, it's not due to OLED or LCD.
The thing separating in the future is hdmi 2.1 which allows for 4k 120hz, while hdmi 2.0 only allows for 1440p 120hz.

 

I'm pretty sure I read that you will be able to store all of your games new and old on any usb external hard drive and even play them from there but you won't get the enhanced performance that you would if you were playing them from the new ssd. They recommend moving them between the the two when playing/not playing for the full experience. With the new ssd it will be as if your are playing games from the internal drive and that is it's main purpose (besides more space) and why it is so expensive.

 

I've seen that too but and could be reading it wrong but I took the "optimized for Xbox Series X" as meaning the performance, load times will be missing if played from any other type of hard drive. I didn't see the Velocity Architecture part and I don't really know what that is so I diffidently can be wrong

Edit: That is also from March and what I read was from after people have started getting their hands on the system.

 

I just looked up a couple of things and I was a little bit wrong. You can store all games new and old on any drive but not play all games, the new ones

 

Sorry, you are right.
https://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-ser...d-drives-and-transferred-to-your-ssd-to-play/

This so far hasn't been confirmed for PS5 though.

PS: Velocity is in regards to the Series S and X handling of I/O by having a system much different than current gen systems, the throughput and decompression of game data is much faster and allows for better game performance in ways that weren't possible before.
PS5 does something similar.

 

Yea, it makes things a bit better for consumers.

 

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/09/ps4-games-on-ps5-your-top-questions-answered/

So 99% of the PS4 library will be playable on PS5 at launch.

You can also easily transfer games and saves from your PS4 or a HDD via USB or WiFi, which is neat.

Many titles will have boosted framerate or resolution, but no details on that yet.

Edit:


Nice.

 

Seems Microsoft is doing a lot to improve backwards compatible games massively, especially Auto HDR seems interesting:



DF also tested several games and they are now running at a stable 60fps, which will definitely make you want to revisit old games.



So far Sony has been really vague about the improvements when it comes to backwards compatibility, the same with Freesync 2 support and 1440p/120hz native setting (Xbox has it, but no word from Sony), so I might get the XSX for multi platform games and PS5 for its exclusives.

The Dualsense controller and 3d audio for PS5 seem intriguing though, will have to wait how many games utilize these features.

 

@Ziggy
How many Clutchfans here have REAL HDR? like over 90% of the DCI P3 color gamut?

The insignia tv owners of Clutchfans wouldn't get any benefits

 

The auto hdr sounds like a pretty exciting feature hopefully Sony adopts something similar.

 

Well nearly all high-end TVs have over 90% nowadays.

But it seems you are mixing up the terms, HDR has nothing to do with wide color gamut, it's about accurately showing bright and dark parts of the image/contrast and maintaining the high luminance while preserving the darker parts.

Color gamut is about the volume of colors a TV can display.

Since you two fap off to OLED and don't know anything other than what your TV salesman told you, I'd also like to mention that QLEDs have a higher HDR brightness and also have a higher gamut and much better color volume than OLED TVs (even rtings, which Ziggy linked, mentions this, but I don't think he looked past the overall score).