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2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

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    Was this tweet taken down?

    I can't see it?
     
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  2. NewRoxFan

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    Yes, it was deleted. Here you go...
    [​IMG]
     
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  3. jiggyfly

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    I saw that after I posted.

    Thanks.

    So everybody is still too scared to take his phone away.

    SMDH.
     
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  4. No Worries

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    OK, boomer.
     
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  5. No Worries

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    Trump getting CV-19 shows just how weak he really is. SCWs can't stand the smell of weak in their leaders. Enough SCWs sit this one out, the more the likely there will be Riding with Biden landslide.

    Sad, really.
     
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  6. dookiester

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    What's SCW
     
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  7. nacho bidness

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    Social conservative warrior? Lol
     
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  8. Master Baiter

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    Man, I hope that this is the case.
     
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  9. rocketsjudoka

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    I know Trump supporters like to say this is just a joke but he's been repeating it for years now. Granted Trump might not have the imagination to come up with a new joke and does like to recycle the hits.
     
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  10. Rileydog

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    This is the odd, quiet sound of trumpers in their bunkers, hoping to weather the shitstorm of trump nonsense and bad news, praying for a miracle. The volume from the usual suspects is perhaps at an all time low.
     
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  11. Nook

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    To those saying the new polling numbers will keep Trump supporters from the polls, it won't. Every single serious Trump supporter I know does not believe the polls, they believe the majority of Americans love the President and he will be re-elected. All the released polling numbers do is reinforce their belief that the media and a small group of radicals are out to destroy the President.

    I am someone that has friends with a variety of political positions from authoritarian to anarchy. With the Trump supporters they really do believe that the vast majority of Americans support him but are afraid to speak up because of media and false claims of racism.
     
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    Yeah I wouldn't count on Trump supporters getting discouraged.
     
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  13. Carl Herrera

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    Outlier outcome but if similar results show up on polls in the coming days...
     
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  14. No Worries

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    Damn right Biden should demand it. If trump doesn't like it, he can stay "home" and debate himself.
     
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  16. Reeko

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    Trumpers are gonna get posterized on election night...nuts all in their face

    I’ve felt confident for months...I’m hoping we see a monumental landslide

    2020’s been so fcked up, the least she could do is make TX turn blue...Trumpers wouldn’t know what to do
     
  17. Carl Herrera

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    Trump might still win the title this year, but he ain't playing no luxury tax to get Harden any help.
     
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    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    A lot of people were certain Hillary would win.
     
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    things are totally different now
     
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    Jayzus. I found this out through Seth Meyers of all sources... Dirty ****ers are worse than a roach infestation getting through every nook and cranny.

    EVERYTHING about what makes America Great isn't about the money nor the opportunity, it's about the trust people have between each other and the institutions. Not only is there trust that both parties are solid/credible but also trust in authority doing their best.

    This is partly why the Police Brutality epidemic is hard to swallow for both sides because we've trusted LEO to be the Best in Worst situations rather than the default of acting the Worst. Same with firefighters and medics...the OG First Responders, that People In Power co-opted into "Essential Workers", whom we've goaded and virtue signaled into not infecting everyone they come across while getting paid peanuts.

    Without trust, families could've defaulted in their non-recourse mortgages a decade ago and leave the nation and Wall Street in a larger hole. We put so much faith in trust, we can use it to accuse someone else of a crime and potentially put that person to death.

    This is what's really at stake with Republican shennanigans right now. It's worse than accusations of Russia or Jina meddling.

    All of this filth is homegrown.


    https://apnews.com/article/virus-ou...ons-lawsuits-4298a514550323d39931f3e5fff2ccae

    In big states, tiny counties, Trump attacking voting rules
    By NICHOLAS RICCARDI, JONATHAN DREW and SCOTT BAUER
    8-10 minutes
    RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — When Donald Trump’s campaign took issue with a new rule on processing some votes in North Carolina, it didn’t just complain to the Board of Elections and file a lawsuit. It wrote to some of the state’s 100 local election offices with extraordinary guidance: Ignore that rule.

    “The NC Republican Party advises you to not follow the procedures,” Trump campaign operative Heather Ford wrote in an email to county officials last week.


    The email urging defiance was a small glimpse at the unusually aggressive, hyperlocal legal strategy the Trump campaign is activating as voting begins. Through threatening letters, lawsuits, viral videos and presidential misinformation, the campaign and its GOP allies are going to new lengths to contest election procedures county-by-county across battleground states.

    That means piling new pressure on the often low-profile election officials on the frontline of the vote count, escalating micro-disputes over voting rules and seeking out trouble in their backyards.

    The local approach already is producing a blizzard of voting-related complaints. Trump and his allies have then seized on the disputes, distorted them and used them to sow broad doubts of fairness and accuracy.


    “It’s clearly based on an overall strategy to disrupt the election as much as possible,” said Barry Richard, who represented President George W. Bush’s campaign in the 2000 Florida recount. “You’re really seeing a broad-based, generalized strategy to suppress the vote by the Republican Party.”

    Trump’s campaign says it’s simply trying to ensure a fair election. It says the explosion of disputes is a result of Democrats’ efforts to change the way America votes during the coronavirus pandemic, largely by expanding access to mail-in voting. More than 200 lawsuits have been filed over voting procedures in the election.

    “Since when is fairness a bad thing?” campaign spokesperson Thea McDonald said in a statement.

    But election experts and lawyers say the GOP efforts demonstrate a new willingness to fight and amplify relatively minor, even legally dubious issues.

    The strategy was on display last week when Trump tweeted about nine “discarded” ballots in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania. Then this week the hot spot was a Philadelphia fight over whether Trump campaign poll monitors could be allowed into newly opened satellite election offices.

    Trump poll monitors requested entry, but city election offices said neither party’s observers had a legal right to access the buildings. Under state law, poll monitors can only observe live, in-person voting and not places where people can register, fill out early ballots and drop them off to be counted weeks later. The campaign sent observers to the sites, and in one case, they were turned away by a Republican on the city election commission. The campaign sued the city Thursday night in an effort to gain access to the sites.

    Richard described this fight as largely “for public consumption.” Trump brought up the episode in Tuesday night’s debate, mentioning none of the legal subtleties. Instead, he held it up as a broad-brushed indictment of the reliability of the vote count.


    “Today there was a big problem in Philadelphia,” Trump said at the debate. “You know why? Because bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things.”

    The next day, Trump’s son Eric and other supporters tweeted a video apparently recorded by a member of the campaign as a Philadelphia election official expelled him from a city building. “Now they are throwing poll watchers out of City Hall in Philly!” Eric Trump wrote.

    President Trump for months has cast doubt on the integrity of the U.S. voting system. His primary target has been mail ballots, which may be used by as many as half of all voters as people look to avoid crowded polling places. Trump has baselessly claimed they will lead to massive fraud.

    Trump’s campaign is now pushing to ensure scrutiny on those mail-in ballots as they are returned. In North Carolina, where Black voters were sending in a disproportionate number of ballots with errors, the Board of Elections settled a lawsuit with a voting rights group making it easier for voters to fix mistakes.

    The board’s two Republicans quit in protest, and the GOP sued to block the settlement. North Carolina’s Democratic attorney general in court papers included a Trump campaign email to some local board of election members as an example of how he said the party was improperly undermining an official state directive.

    Says McDonald, the Trump campaign spokesperson: “County board members need guidance on how to proceed in the wake of these unelected Democrats’ attempt to radically rewrite the law 40 days out from Election Day.”

    On Thursday, the state Board of Elections, which has a Democratic majority, told counties to halt using the new cure method pending the outcome of court hearings this week and next.

    Regardless of the outcome of the litigation, voting rights specialists were stunned at the Trump campaign’s step.

    “What we’re talking about is an effort to deliberately place these barriers in front of people. And many may be discouraged from trying to cure, or making it impossible for them to cure, a deficiency,” said Irving Joyner, a law professor at North Carolina Central University who’s not involved in the case.


    North Carolina is not the only state that has seen upheavals to its election procedures even as ballots are being filled out. Many of the more than 200 lawsuits filed over voting issues are still lingering, an enormous question mark over the election as more and more states start early voting.

    Republicans have asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review a ruling in South Carolina on how to handle errors in mail ballots and a judgment in Pennsylvania allowing the count of some ballots arriving after Election Day. Also in Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign is asking a federal judge to throw out a state law that requires poll watchers to live in the county where they are monitoring. It’s become a major obstacle to Republican plans to send out some 50,000 poll watchers in battlegrounds.

    But the GOP’s scrutiny of local elections offices isn’t always over complex legal issues. In Wisconsin, Republicans warned the city of Madison against holding a “Democracy in the Park” event, sending a cease and desist letter late last week warning it could be a venue for illegal collection of ballots in the liberal bastion. The event went ahead anyway, and city officials say about 10,000 participated.

    On Wednesday, there was a new warning to Milwaukee and its sports teams. It covered not only players but mascots such as the Brewers’ famed racing sausages as enticements for people to vote.

    “It seems kind of silly to be worried about racing sausages, but the larger point is the law is pretty clear,” GOP state party chair Andrew Hitt told The Associated Press by phone on Wednesday.

    Wisconsin state elections officials have already warned the Trump campaign off once after it sent a survey to local elections offices asking for details on procedures. Such surveys can help find issues to be litigated — but they also are a way for campaigns to make connections with local election officials who will help determine their success. The Trump campaign noted that such surveys are standard and also sent by Democrats.

    Rick Hasen, a law professor at the University of California, Irvine who has been a frequent critic of Trump’s approach to voting, said there’s a difference between campaigns talking to election offices and trying to pressure them.

    “To know the rules of the game you’re going to play under, it’s different than trying to work the refs,” Hasen said. “All of this conduct is so beyond the pale — it’s hard to put in context because there’s been nothing like it in modern American campaigns.”

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