Trump's Taxes - Turns out - the man is a fraud and deeply in debt!

Trump's returns are under audit according to him. Therefore the IRS has NOT RESOLVED this particular return. Why do you keep ignoring that?

 

lol general and I have similar tastes..

btw ive been meaning to tell you that i love the way you like to engage people and fight. its awesome keep doing what you do. probably its mostly because we agree on most matters lol but its also very funny and well done. mostly haha

 

Since the government is not concerned about getting paid, let then knew that you will never pay income tax again. Let us know how that goes

 

The only fact you proved is in your head.

 

Ivanka paid the tax You're missing the point bro. Yes the government is concerned about money but not here

Here they are concerned about who pays it and big bad corporations not passing the liability on unfairly

 

This isnt the first year of Ivanka's consulting endeavors

 

The government also has to spend a lot more money on many other things than the NYT. I already posted a link showing how funding cuts to the IRS is allowing wealthy taxpayers to cheat the system so it's not just my opinion.

 

I like to mix it up, especially with people who are sincere and eloquent.

I am not a great typer so it is some times hard for me to get my point across, I realize I can sometimes be an ******* so I don't mind people calling me out.

I can't lie some posters just irk me and it's not the Trumpers, PG is definitely one.

He should be ignored by everyone yet I always have to comment when he starts on these ridiculous tangents.

I like what you do as well I can always get a chuckle.

 

rj and bobrek have been incredibly patient with you (especially relative to D&D norms), taking the time to type out quality responses, and present the factual case and give honest opinions. It's rude how dismissive you are.

As for your assertions above
- of course a single organization the size of NYT can put more man-hours into the tax returns of one businessman than the IRS does. Why would that surprise anyone? Furthermore, there's nothing shocking about the consequences of defunding the IRS. NYT doesn't have the same kind of deadlines to meet, either.
- someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't is entirely possible that 1) the IRS has already red-flagged the item and 2) cannot audit/prosecute a sitting president?

You seem to believe that all billionaires will always get caught on all of their cheating. That's quite naive, if true.

 

As someone who has filed self-employment taxes yes you're supposed to do that as a contractor. I don't know if you have but it's not an easy process and requires more documentation. It's also another area that is frequently abused or just plain missed. Employer payment of payroll taxes is far more used as a matter of paying for those things. One of the reasons why this is an issue is that while employers will pay contractors more take home pay than employees since they aren't doing withholding or any other things for contractors they are actually spending much less on contractors and then the contractors have to make up things like self-employment taxes.

Anyway accepting the protecting worker argument still doesn't excuse fraud of making someone who functions as an employee a consultant. Further it's a double fraud on not just the government but to people doing business with Trump Organization since Ivanka is presented as someone essential to the business.

 

Funding for the irs doesn't prove the irs would miss such an egregious violation.

THERE IS NO VIOLATION. IVANKA PAID THE MEDICARE AND SS TAXES

 

We know for a fact that Trump is under audit. In terms of prosecuting a sitting president not sure if that follows under the DOJ ban on prosecuting a sitting president or whether they could fine a sitting President.

 

I've already provided you the evidence.

Also how do you know what Ivanka paid for? Have you seen her tax returns?

 

THERE IS NO FRAUD AND THERE NEVER IS UNLESS THE COMPANY IS NOT INFORMING THE EMPLOYEE/CONSULTANT

THE TAX IS PAID REGARDLESS

 

BECAUSE THE ARTICLE SAYS SHE CLAIMED THE INCOME.

You're above arguing to argue i thought

 

I wouldn't give a **** what you think about their said patience. Dont talk down to me like im your b****, arrogant b****

 

The consultant fees stretch more than one year and i dont think the 2017 tax returns are but its unclear

 

Does everyone really think they found something so simple the irs missed

Yall are crazy behind Trump

 

This isn't arguing for argue.
Claimed doesn't indicate what taxes are paid. The two are different things. Further I think it is safe to assume that Ivanka Trump's return is likely very complicated too so we don't know for sure what taxes she's paid.

Besides as we've been stating repeatedly whether Ivanka Trump get's paid still doesn't mean a fraud was not perpetrated. I can hire a roofer to work on my house. Pay him in a cash and not issue a 1099-MISC for him. He can even report that I paid him on his taxes and even pay the self-employment tax on that income. That doesn't mean I haven't committed fraud and there is no potential tax penalty.

Your argument again that because it hasn't been (note not that its been exonerated) charged yet and Trump fined for it doesn't mean it's not a violation anymore than that there is preponderance of evidence that OJ killed his wife even though he wasn't convicted.

Myself and others have posted the evidence you're free to stick to your opinion but to use a quote I've cited more than once on this forum, "Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one."

 

You really don't understand the point.

If that was all to it no one would be employees and everyone would just independent contractors.