Again, once a player who commits a transgression is cleared by the legal system (and serves his suspension)... do you think they should be able to work again? Chapman choked his beloved and fired a gun... and the Yankees signed him at a discount. There's really no splitting hairs between DV incidents.
Actually looks like you don’t believe in nuance. I never said anything remotely close to advocating he be banned for life. I can prefer my team not to take on wife-beaters the minute their league-mandated suspension is up while still believing in second chances. If I were writing the script, Osuna would have fully admitted what he did, which would have led no team (not even Luhnow’s Astros) from taking him on, at which point Osuna would have had to spend a year or two proving his remorse (possibly while playing in a lesser league), then maybe a team take a shot on him, under conditions that he continues working publicly to right his wrong.
I am not a Yankees fan. I wouldn’t have wanted the Astros to acquire Chapman either. Another poster apparently incapable of nuance.
Nuances? If the Stros wouldn't have signed him another would have. Think about this, what team has ever done his. A player with trouble is always welcomed back and quickly. (Chapman by 2 teams)
That is pure speculation. It always depends on the crime and how good the player is, among other things. Best I can tell, teams do draw the line when it comes to crimes involving children (see the Oregon St pitcher who was accused of molestation). We will have to see if Felipe Rivero/Vázquez gets another shot anytime soon (assuming he avoids prison time). One other point: being exonerated in a court of law or completing a legal sentence should not mean someone automatically gets to resume their life as it was prior to the crime. And this certainly applies to people in the public eye (and/or people who are in careers with high income or responsibilities). Would you vote back into office a politician who had been credibly accused of beating his wife?
yanks took advantage by giving up little to cinci for him, then were able to flip him for a lot and resign him cause of his DV so they played it masterfully
He served a lengthy suspension without pay as well. just say you believe he should be banned and this conversation is done... because he never would have been banned. I never said the Astros didn’t deserve some criticism for signing him... but to say no team would have got him? That’s some major fantasy land thinking.
it's not fantasy land thinking, it's blatant lying because all the other good players who committed DV played after their suspensions
Bloom already rejected that notion. I suppose he could be overruled by ownership, but I also don’t see it. Hinch should have a choice of where he wants to manage next. We’ll see who else fires their managers tomorrow... but I expect he’ll garner quite the interest after the last out of the WS.
Depends on who he was running against and if I thought he was the best man for the job. His personal life is just that, personal.
I think Hinch ends up in Detroit. They have a very similar situation to what the Astros had when Hinch took over here with a lot of good young players and a solid minor league system (will get their 3rd top 5 pick in a row this next draft). Seems like it would be the perfect re-entry point for him. Hopefully, he doesn't convince Strom to go with him.
I am glad it was officially rejected. It was all over the media in Boston that Cora would be back, which made no sense to me. I would think the Red Sox would want to distance themselves from potential backlash like the Astros have received. So far the Red Sox have been very fortunate to not be crucified in the media.
Last article I read made it a point to enforce that Cora was only suspended for his role with the Astros. If that's the narrative they're pushing, I doubt they'd get backlash beyond an eyebrow raise (and some Astros-twitterverse complaints). But in the end, Bloom wants to pick his own guy... and the Red Sox have a lot more issues than the Astros have in terms of getting back to competing (especially in that tough division).
Why is it Hinch who allowed the cheating in his dugout going to get another job. Yet GM Luhnow probably isn't going to get another job?
Nobody can know right now what is going to happen to those two. We also don't know what else on the subject may arise in the media in the meantime. By the time those two qualify to enter baseball again, the landscape could be very different, or not. One thing we do know, is that more often than not, when it comes to baseball, things do not happen in logical or sensible fashion. The powers that be come to some resolution, and those caught in its wake either get reintegrated or tossed aside. Sort of reminds me of bullies and gangs in the school yard. I am curious to how it all resolves though. What other entities will get dragged in to it? More narks in the future? More punishment for some? None for others? Its a drama for sure.
