Verlander out with Tommy John

Yup. That is why there was no real harm in him trying.

 

I no this is sad but I though the Astros starting pitching was doing well. The hitting and relievers are the problems.

 

Yep, this is totally unsurprising, if disappointing, news.

 

Oh boo hoo Espn

 

Dear god why would anyone gratify them by reading that?

 

So out for 2021 too I assume

 

We should transition him to closer for 2021, like Smoltz or Schilling did

 

At least JV tried to come back for the team. I'm surprised he took it upon himself to release the news. I know the Stros tried to protect this bad news.

 

He was going to be out next year regardless. Surgery was inevitable, ala McCullers pitching in the playoffs with a bum arm.

 

Was Justin Verlander hurt in the World Series?

His Velocity was down and Command was really off.

 

On a positive note Lance McCullers looks good after coming back from Surgery.

I hope he stays healthy.

Yordan Alvarez coming back next year is Important also.

I hope the Astros can get All Star Power Pitcher through a trade.

 

You'd have to ask him, only guy who knows how the arm feels is the guy it's attached to.

And pitchers are notorious liars when it comes to health.

 

How much guaranteed money does he get for the 2021 season? Does it change our cap much?

 

Depends on how insured the contract is.

 

His payroll in 2021 was to be $33M.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/houston-astros/payroll/2021/

We are still paying for Joe Smith?

 

Verlander got a 2 year 66 million dollar extension and will pitch 1 game. Ouch.

 

Smith was signed to a 2yr/$8M contract, so he's on the books for next year in any situation. Could somebody please explain to me how opt outs work? Does the contract carry over to 2022, or is this year treated as a regular year with him on the roster for payroll/proration purposes. I'm confused. Also, does the league count him as "high risk" (still gets paid), or not (loses his money)? I've been curious for multiple reasons.

 

Disappointing, but hardly surprising.

I actually feel a lot better about our ability to withstand this than I did earlier. Between Framber, Urquidy, McCulers, and Javier it looks like we could have a pretty solid rotation next season. Combined with an expanded playoff that MLB is likely gonna maintain.

Going through an extremely grueling recovery just to come back at 39, that has to be tough.

 

If someone can figure out how contracts and insurance work during the pandemic, then we would know things.

 

You forgot Poland...errr...Greinke.