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A Prediction: Both Harden & Westbrook Will Be Gone

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Furious Jam, Sep 16, 2020.

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  1. daywalker02

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    Lmao I do not think Tilman is an total idiot, he can google Levert, he is simply a douche.

    I think Nash would do a swap, Irving plus fillers for Harden.
     
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    steddinotayto Contributing Member

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    lol sometimes idiocy and douchiness goes hand in hand ;)
     
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    We ain’t trading harden. If ppl went out to rocket games when we had Steve Francis they will always still come with harden. Let’s admit it, were hooked. We’re still watching next year
     
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    So I am no good at this stuff, but on ESPn's trade checker they have Prince at a $3 mm figure, and basically you can't get close to this deal unless you include DeAndre Jordan's disastrously bad deal - even then I couldn't get it to work exactly sending out 7-8 nets since both teams are LT/over the cap it's very tricky for the Nets to even fill out a roster at all. But then, maybe they could hire Mike Dantoni as Nash assistant and get by with a 4 man rotation. BTW if I were the Nets I wouldn't hesitate to exchange Kyrie for Harden, they should be sending guys to Tillman's house with offers of landry's loans.
     
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    The trade machine still has this year's cap hit. LeVert signed an extension that kicks in for next season and Prince did the same.

    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/cap/2020/


    Regarding Kyrie..I thought about that and man it's not crazy either but I absolutely loathe Kyrie. At least with Harden you know what kind of effort he can give you. Kyrie...the moment he has an opportunity to b**** and point fingers he'll immediately take it.
     
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    In the comments section I think he mentions it would be a Middleton for Westbrook swap.
     
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    I guess the Bucks' owners are just as dumb as Fertitta.
     
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    Never trade harden. Dude is underrated. If you get off of Westbrook's contract and gain some height, ok. But never trade harden.
     
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    3 team deal...get Kyrie to Sac for De'Aaron Fox/Hield, Barnes and Bubble offender Richaun..... more interested in picks.
     
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    Merchandise sales don't really matter, as revenue from merchandise is split evenly between all owners. If they sell tickets, that's one thing, but a team that just failed expectations miserably and doesn't change at all isn't likely to attract anymore fans. Winning sells tickets, and sometimes so does just changing... that's why I think he might try breaking it up.

    Ideally, yes, Morey and/or the new HC would be making all these decisions, but we don't live in an ideal world (or Harden and Paul would already have a ring or two and still be running the show in Houston).
     
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    Good point about merch.

    And I agree.. with your logic. But then Tilman acquired Westbrook, a net negative player, for a Kings ransom. Im scared to see what he does next. He seems like the type to double down on his own ideas as the best version of risk taking.
     
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    So what happens to Durant?

    How does that go over with him?
     
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    If Minnesota offers Kat and the number 1 pick I would consider it but yeah Harden is the franchise so it’ll have to be a huge godfather deal.
     
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    Irving and fillers for Harden? Lol no thanks. Those fillers better by 5 first round picks. It’s a insult James to put Harden and Irving in the same sentence
     
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    I doubt both are traded. And I'm ok with that. We can keep shaking up our team, but that's just gonna cause more chemistry issues. I never see us winning if we keep trying to reset our team. After a couple years with a capela, harden was easily clicking with him. We can't tailor our team towards Westbrook, we gotta focus on harden only.
     
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    Russ has to prove himself on the upcoming season before he can be traded.

    Trading Harden has embarrassed the last franchise, it will be exactly the same if we trade him. He's a top-5 player in this league, you simply don't trade players in that range unless you have a top-3 draft pick lined up, and we don't.

    The only way I would ever trade Harden is if he asked for one. It's hard as it is to put fans in the stands, you can't pull a Knicks and get rid of franchise players for no good reason.
     
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    I actually dont think anyone really wants Harden. Has a rep as a playoff loser and costs a ton.
     
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    You don’t think emotionally, you think like a stock broker. Ironically like morey. If you don’t see much happening then you get value for James when it’s still high.

    WB is good at helping his team lose so then you tank and get more pics. Celtics style
     
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    Just to clarify, I myself would add JVG and tweak things, but that's because I'm a fan. I'm not at all advocating for a tank & rebuild. I'm just pointing out several factors that when combined would provide a logical basis for Tilman cleaning house this off-season, hence my prediction.

    BTW, just because Morey's gotten a vote of confidence that doesn't mean that Tilman won't order a rebuild. If he's smart then Morey would be part of that rebuild and not a casualty of it. Remember, Morey has always said that Les never wanted to tank, but Morey has never said that he himself would not consider tanking. Indeed, Sam Hinkie, Morey's protege, perfected the art of the tank.
     
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