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Observations on Game 1 Rockets v Lakers 2020

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Xerobull, Sep 5, 2020.

  1. cmoak1982

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    Not the same as him not being a factor. His numbers are already factored in by the rockets, just need him to score where the rockets want him to.
     
  2. wekko368

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    In other words, video evidence contradicts the stats. Yet you're going to stick with the stats.
     
  3. cmoak1982

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    No, I’m not watching the video. You can’t have an honest discussion. Not intelligent enough for comprehension and not self aware enough to actually understand the first.
    I didn’t make up the stats. The NBA did
     
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    Try to stay on point here. AD had a -7, and you claimed he was a non-factor in game 2 because of this.

    Harden had a +/- of 0 in game 1. According to your logic, wouldn't this mean that Harden was also a non-factor in game 1?

    It's clear to everyone that you misused +/-. Just own it and move on.
     
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    Don't watch the whole video. Start at the 37 second mark. It's 3 possessions.

    The reason you're refusing to watch it is because you know I'm right.
     
  6. cmoak1982

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    No it’s clear to everyone you can’t read and are putting words in my mouth to fit your narrative. You are a very ignorant person.
    I’m done polluting this room by responding to a simpleton.
     
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    You’re a simpleton, not going to watch your cherry picked “evidence”
     
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    Putting words in your mouth? I literally quoted you.
     
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    Re-read simpleton
     
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    I don't care whose wrong or right. I genuinely want to know why those 3 baskets aren't considered "contested".
     
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    So I'm putting words in your mouth by quoting you? Weird argument.
     
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    You didn’t quote. You said I said AD was a non factor in the game. I said his performance wasn’t a factor in Lakers winning.
    Not the same as him not being a factor. His numbers are already factored in by the rockets, just need him to score where the rockets want him to.
    But of course you interpret things to fit your narrative. Pretty obvious what type of person you are. So, good day.
     
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    What is the difference between "not a factor in the game" and "not a factor in the Lakers winning?"
     
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    You wouldn’t understand. Just look up KAT and Kevin Love record/stats in Minnesota
     
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    You must be going through some extreme mental gymnastics to convince yourself that AD isn't a factor in the Lakers winning.

    So can you explain why those 3 shots in the video don't qualify as "contested"? Seems like whether or not a shot is "contested" is inherently subjective which means it's unreliable.
     
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    Ok, for the children in the room still learning. You aren’t going to stop AD, but you can choose how to limit his effectiveness. Rockets will absolutely take him shooting mid to long range jump shots. Their defense is dictating this action. It is a forgone conclusion that he will get his-factored in OR it’s not a factor on if Lakers will win.
    It’s the role players making shots that will hurt. Lebron taking over will hurt. He has more ways to beat you.

    For your second point, do you know if those 3 possessions were counted as contested or not? I haven’t watched the video and don’t care to. By definition, contested is hand up within a reasonable distance as to where offense and defense is initiated at the same time.
     
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    Sure, role players making shots or Lebron taking over can put the Lakers over the top. But in order for them to get there, they need AD to play well.

    You're saying that since AD's production puts them in a position to win but doesn't necessarily bring them over the top, then his contribution in a Lakers win is a non-factor.

    That's simply bad logic.

    If you're going to use the "contested shot" stat to support your argument, then you should absolutely care about the reliability of such a subjective stat.
     
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    Hey *** nut, you conveniently forgot Scott Foster impact on this game plus Russ losing his mind on how to properly attack a 2-3 zone.

    There will be no Scott Foster in Game 3 and Rockets will go back to being the best defense in the playoffs.

    Turnovers will be key.
     
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    Here we go again, the refs are out to get us.
     
  20. D-rock

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    Piss off jack wad.

    You are completely clueless.

    Foster was not only reason for loss but his record vs. Rockets is undeniable.
     

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