Kenosha police shoots black man multiple times in his back in front of his children, declares curfew

nvm

 

Seems like an unlikely thing for a civilian to carry. Do cops normally have these?

 

Not every circumstance where a black criminal dies at the hands of the police is a result of racist-based brutality. Holding a deadly weapon (a knife is considered deadly) + criminal history (I'm sure they ran a make on him already at that point) + not complying + reaching into a car = bad outcome for you. This guy had about 20 chances to NOT get shot. Cops are in the right here. Cops were in the right in the Rayshard Brooks shooting. Breonna Taylor is more hazy because the officers were being shot at by her boyfriend, George Floyd is more clear the police were acting with brutality.

Every case is different, that's why there are courts and juries to sort out evidence. These things take time and procedure. In the Rodney King days riots erupted AFTER the cops were tried and acquitted. Now, with any perceived brutality the thugs hit the streets immediately, without any effort to wait to hear more information. Perfect example is the black murder suspect in Minny who shot HIMSELF...next thing you know Targets are getting looted.

Bottom line, there's little rationality, intelligence, or patience with these matters.

 

It could be that they stepped back once he pulled out the knife. We may get more details soon, but then there will understandably be questions over how trustworthy those details are.

 

If I read the report correctly, the taser was ineffective.

The Man has a history of beating his kids and wife. What’s not to say that the cops saved the family from Blake potentially hurting them further in a rage of emotion. He has done it before.

We can armchair all we want, but if he had reached in his car, pulled out a gun and murdered the cop then there would have been people saying he should have shot him when he had the chance.

Blake, by not complying put too many unknowns out there for the police to react. The right thing was done and the cop who discharged his weapon will more than likely be used as an example of the correct thing to do in this circumstance.

It’s mind blowing that this event caused this much outrage.

 

I can’t see what that is from that blurry picture.

Let’s assume it is a knife. It’s small and he wasn’t shot for having it. He was shot when he got to the driver side and open the door. The knife wasn’t the trigger.

 

Pulling a knife on cops let’s them know you are willing to take a life. One slash to the neck is all it takes.

here we are though, the trail has started.

He didn’t have a knife...
He did have a knife but it was small...

Excuses...excuses...excuses.

 

It is impossible to bring nuance into these conversations. Everyone always retreats into their "he's a criminal" and "it's racism" camps.

These situations are hardly ever black and white. Even the situations that do seem cut and dry (Floyd) are extremely complicated.

 

It’s not clear if it’s a knife and that’s why I said let’s assume it is.

So let’s assume again.

Why was he not shot for having the knife?

Fact: he was shot when he open the driver side door


btw, I never said he has a knife or not.. I said I always have a knife in a car, it’s a tool. You are stating a trail that isn’t accurate

 

Because unknown people were storming his apartment?

Listen to the eyewitness accounts

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/us/breonna-taylor-police-shooting-invs/index.html

 

Don't do that - where in my statement did I say his firing shots at the police was unjustified? All I said was shots were fired at the police - that is a fact. Even if the shots were justified (which objectively, it probably was justified), police were being fired at which means their life was in danger, which then means lethal force is in play. Again, my point is, it's hazy, there are lots of facts to sort out, and every situation is different.

 

The primary criticism in the Taylor case should be focused on the judge, the heads of the PD, and the concept of no knock warrants.

The cops in the raid are a distraction from the actual problem.

 

No, man, those hypothetical what-ifs should not even enter the equation on whether lethal force should be used. That would be highly problematic to expect or permit cops to make judgment calls like that.

 

You said the situation was "hazy" as in the popo will not be held responsible. It's not. They are 100% at fault. Several of the witnesses, even next door, say the police did not identify themselves. So there's nothing hazy about the right to self-defense in your own home.

 

Judgement calls are what is required every day by officers.

Reacting to criminals(which Blake has several instances in the past) is how you end up in a casket.

These officers put their lives on the line to protect people. Respect them and that they also have an interest in returning to their loved ones.

Most people who complain about police are ignorant or criminals.

Almost every instance of these “unarmed” killings that the media blows up end up leading to zero jail time for the police officer. Why you ask? Because they didn’t do anything wrong.

 

They shot him 7 times, with children in the car

Protect and Serve


The U.S. Marshals Service (USMS) carried out “Operation Not Forgotten” in Georgia.
https://thehill.com/changing-americ...hals-find-39-missing-children-in-just-2-weeks

I put that there because I respect and appreciate real police work, or Marshal work.
it's a positive story.

 

If a police officer is worried about being killed and shoots someone who turns out to have not been a threat, they were wrong. Even if it wasn't criminal, they were wrong and it cost a civilian their lives. When will they be held accountable for being wrong? They can't just keep being wrong but it's okay because they had good reasons to be wrong.

 

Please give me an example? Intent should always matter.

 

This is an appeal to emotion. These are not good.

 

Que?