Kenosha police shoots black man multiple times in his back in front of his children, declares curfew

I guess Breonna Taylor should have done a better job at complying.

 

It seems like more people in here are saying that Blake was in the wrong, but so were the police.

You shouldn't resist arrest. Of course you shouldn't.

But as a cop, why in the world would you ever allow a suspect to casually walk back to his car where he could have any weapon that you don't want to face? It's just poor training. Maybe it's not poor training, maybe it's a poor ability to put training to action. They should have taken his legs out with their batons. If three cops can't take a singular guy down and keep him from getting to his car without shooting him, they should be relieved of their duties, at the very least.


People keep acting like there can only be one wrong party here. That's not the case. Everyone can be wrong in some situations.


If I'm being attacked by someone, as an innocent person, and the cops roll up, they sure as hell better not let my attacker continue to attack me until he decides to quit and walk back to his car.

 

when did I defend him? His past priors is irreverent to the cop actions.

so he had the knife on him prior to getting to the driver side?

 

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/did-jacob-blake-have-a-weapon-we-examine-the-facts/

Those are car keys for sure... rolls eyes.

 

He had a knife on him...

Why would you close the distance? Cops aren’t trained to get closer to someone who has a knife. That’s how you die.

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/did-jacob-blake-have-a-weapon-we-examine-the-facts/

let’s get closer.

Cops did the right thing here.

 

Obviously that website will be skewed towards the "he had a knife" argument. Can we clearly see that's a knife and not the caller's keys, as she reported?

If he had a knife, why did police initially engage him? They were seen wrestling with him before he got up and walked off.

If he truly had a knife, why wait until he gets to his car, opens the door, and the kids can see, before shooting him?


As we all know, police can and do sometimes plant evidence. It's happened many times. Especially in high profile cases when they want to prove they were justified in their actions. I, for one, don't trust cops in this situation.

The video shows he has something in his hand. I'm not sure it's a knife though, 100%. It could be. It might be a key fob. Who knows?

 

They did the right thing 7 times.

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...cob-blake-did-not-brandish-knife-gun-kenosha/

 

He might have a knife.

 

There isn’t a key or fob that looks anything like that. That’s a knife. If he complied he would have lived. That’s all that needs to be said or discussed.

The cops didn’t shoot him until he reached in his car. They gave him plenty of chances. People are asking for police accountability when they did their job correctly.

Blake messed up and it cost him half his body.

 

Clear as day it was a knife in the link I provided.

I’m providing pictures. Let’s just acknowledge Blake deserved to get shot and move on.

 

Nobody is disputing that he messed up, which is what you originally said.

People are disputing the police actions.

As I said, if they were fearful of whatever it was in his hands, (the camera, especially when zoomed that much on cell phone video, can play tricks on the shapes of things), they wouldn't have engaged him initially.

People wouldn't even be as upset if they'd have shot him before he reached the car, imo. But they waited. They had every opportunity to not let him reach the car. That's why there's outrage.

As I said, three on one. As law enforcement, part of your job is to avoid deadly use of force and let that person stand trial. They avoided doing this. They should be relieved of their duties, at the very least.

I'll also admit that I'm armchair quarterbacking. Easy for me to say all this stuff, but these.kinds of interactions happen many times every day, and people don't get shot in front of their kids like this.

If we're going to solve this policing (and getting arrested) problem, we need to start calling these guys out, even if they were "more right" than the suspect. They were still not executing their job (for lack of a better word) to their best abilities. If they were, then they need to find a new career.

 

"Clear as day" my ass. Looks like sunglasses to me.

 

He had an arrest warrant, i think that's how it works. You have an arrest warrant, you get arrested.

 

Its definitely hard to say. Assuming this is cell phone video, it's zoomed in quite a bit. Things gets distorted easily.

The woman that called the cops claimed he took her keys. I said maybe it is the key fob and the pixelation distorted it. Other people say absolutely not.

 

That's a UFO.

 

If he had a knife, and from the close up image it seems that is likely, the police standing back is more understandable. My view is that police officers should have non-lethal means to take down someone in that case, but maybe they weren’t equipped or trained to do that and you can’t really blame them for that.

I still go back to my original point that shooting the man in the back with his kids right there was a terrible choice to make. If there is doubt about what he is actually doing, don’t use lethal force. That needs to be the overriding principle. Instead, what they are taught is to use lethal force if suspect doesn’t comply with orders and there is doubt about what he is doing. And that “doubt” over the danger posed by the suspect is clearly racially biased.

 

The theory is that it is this:



Seems plausible to me, especially if the cops were reportedly yelling at him to drop the knife.

 

It's very plausible, but not confirmed.

It's also being used as an excuse for them to wait until he got to his car to shoot him. Can't engage someone with a knife, they say. But they had just had an engagement.