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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Aug 21, 2020.

  1. Corrosion

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    I don't follow Ngo, I don't even have a twitter account.

    You tell me , what is provoking the acts that he is filming ? Someone just outside the image ?!
     
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    Andy Ngo with the Emmy for reporting in a snack zone. LOL This guy. The dude literally runs the snack van in front of the justice center that armed right wing crazies tried to knock over Saturday.

     
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    False equivalence. Name them.
     
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    Nobody is suggesting there isn't violence or looting happening in some of these places. Putting it all on Antifa though is just silly. It's telling the number of Andy Ngo propaganda videos that are posted here. And to your question, it is particularly impossible to know what is actually happening in an Andy Ngo video because he is a documented liar and a fraud who frequently omits the context of the video. He has on multiple occasions at a bare minimum, selectively shot events that portrayed his right wing hate group friends as the victims when in reality they were the instigators. I have documented the hammer incident and the bar incident in this thread. Who knows how often he does this considering how invested the right wingers have become with his propaganda.
     
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    Omg lol
     
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    What's peaceful about burning other people's **** ?
     
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    We need to send them border patrol boys to handle this one,

     
  11. ROXRAN

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    They mostly come out at night....Mostly
     
  12. Os Trigonum

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    lol

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    essay on violence:

    https://theweek.com/articles/933909/know-what-violence

    You know what violence is
    Bonnie Kristian
    August 27, 2020

    Violence is a through line of this summer, and this week it ran through Kenosha, Wisconsin.

    Protests have raged through the small, Midwest city since police shot Jacob Blake seven times in the back, paralyzing him. Demonstrations that were mostly or entirely peaceful during daylight have devolved into vandalism and arson at night, with dozens of businesses, apartments, and vehicles damaged, looted, or burned. Then, late Tuesday, two people were killed and a third wounded when they were shot, allegedly by a 17-year-old suspect who before the shooting said he was on hand, seemingly as a voluntary vigilante, to protect local businesses.

    All this — the police shooting, the arson, the vigilante killings — is violence. It is not all the same degree of violence, but it is violence nonetheless. That may seem too obvious to state, but the nature of violence has come under dispute. Too many seem unwilling to acknowledge they know it when they see it — like CNN running a chyron describing Kenosha's unrest as "fiery but mostly peaceful," or Vice President Mike Pence decrying violence by looters but not by police, or Twitter critics angry that property damage would be called "violence" at all.

    Standard definitions of violence have two consistent elements: use of physical force and intent to inflict harm. Eliminate the physical force and it may be more appropriate to speak of aggression, abuse, manipulation, exploitation, threat, malice, or coercion — all evils, but not identical to violence, which they only sometimes include. Eliminate the intent to harm and the act at hand may be an accident, an act of protective restraint (as when a medical worker uses force to control a delirious patient), or a mechanistic or natural force.

    These two elements have deep roots in the etymology of violence. The word "comes from violare in classical Latin," explains Gandhian scholar Michael Nagler, who founded the Peace and Conflict Studies Program at U.C. Berkeley. "Violare means 'to bear in on with force' and in the classical period it came to mean 'injure, dishonor, outrage, violate.'" We use "violent" to describe weather events and animal predation, Nagler says, but these are metaphorical meanings, for "only humans can, properly speaking, be violent."

    The boundaries of violence have also been scrutinized since antiquity. Christian peace traditions have long examined violence to understand what is and isn't pleasing to God. The African theologian Tertullian deemed imprisonment, torture, execution, warfare, and any "occupation of the sword" impermissibly violent. Early Quaker leaders testified they had "wronged no man's person or possessions," and thus "used no force nor violence against any man."

    All this is to say the question of how to define violence isn't new. It has been asked for centuries and, frankly, answered well. We know violence when we see it.

    We know, as those Quakers did, that it includes forcibly harming people and their possessions. There's nothing in the definition that limits the physical harm in question to human bodies, and destroying possessions can destroy lives, as anyone who lost their home, food, or livelihood in the Tulsa race massacre or a genocidal famine or under scorched-earth policy could tell you.

    This runs contrary to the belief of growing number on the left, who, in the words of Current Affairs' Nathan J. Robinson, argue the "word 'violence' should be reserved for harm done to people," because to do otherwise would imply equivalence between people and property. But this redefinition is absurd. Of course, violence against a thing is not the same as violence against a human. But then, neither is punching someone the moral equivalent of beheading them. Violence has degrees. To admit this is not conflation.

    We also know "violence" has never meant exclusively verbal attacks. Language can be intended to inflict harm. It can even incite or command or encourage violence. But language is not itself violence, nor is silence violence (as a crowd of demonstrators insisted in a viral video from Washington on Monday), no matter how nicely it rhymes. Silence in some circumstances may excuse or endorse or permit violence, and it doesn't diminish the gravity of such abuses to say silence is not violence itself. This distinction is the one truth of the otherwise lying nursery proverb: Sticks and stones may break your bones, and words will also hurt you — but they won't hurt you with physical force, and that means, however otherwise evil, they're not violence.

    This should not trouble us. Applying the label of "violence" is hardly the only way to condemn intentional harm. We have lots of other words for this! But evidently it does trouble us. Or least it troubles that portion of the American left which has decided we ought to adjust the definition of violence to newly exclude property damage and include harmful silence or speech.

    That's not to say the right always uses the word violence appropriately. President Trump has misused it by accusing Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) of "violence" for her policy views on Israel and Palestine. More commonly, as Pence demonstrated, the word is misused by omission in reference to law enforcement wings of the state: Pro-death penalty conservatives tend not to speak of executions as violence, though certainly they are. Euphemisms of "officer-involved shootings" or police "discharging their weapons and striking someone" avoid acknowledgement of state violence, too.

    Violence is a constant this summer, so how we speak about is particularly urgent right now. Refusing to recognize violence does nothing to stop it. We can't pretend it away, whatever its source.

    The mushrooming violence in Kenosha is what people mean when they say "violence begets violence": not that one act of violence deserves or justifies another, but that they often follow and attract each other, spreading organically, like rot, infestation, contagion. Denying or downplaying any of these violent deeds can only make that reproduction more difficult to halt.​
     
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    Babylon Bee has the comprehensive list:

    14 Mostly Accurate CNN Headlines From The Last 6,000 Years Of Human History
    August 27th, 2020
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    CNN has been there from the beginning, always running toward the important stories and absolutely never covering them up. We went through CNN's archives and dug up these 14 headlines they published while covering some of the most significant events of human history. They are truly a bastion of truth and honesty in journalism.

    2348 BC: Watery But Mostly Peaceful Flood Destroys Earth

    1025 BC: David Circumcises 200 Philistines In Mostly Painless Medical Procedure

    33 AD: Mostly Peaceful Crowd Demands Jesus Be Crucified

    79 AD: Fiery But Mostly Dormant Mount Vesuvius Erupts

    1235 AD: Genghis Khan Attacks China In Mostly Pacifist Invasion

    1347 AD: Black Death Peacefully Kills Millions, Trump To Blame

    1453 AD: Constantinople Liberated By Religion Of Mostly Peace

    1937 AD: Hindenburg Has Mostly Pleasant Flight

    1945 AD: America Drops Two Mostly Peaceful Nuclear Bombs On Japan

    1959 AD: Chinese Citizens Mostly Don't Starve To Death In Great Famine

    1986 AD: USSR Reactor At Chernobyl Mostly Not Exploded

    1997 AD: McDonald's Unveils Mostly Functional McFlurry Machine

    2008 AD: Obama Runs Mostly Scandal-Free Administration

    2017 AD: The Last Jedi Mostly Not A Terrible Movie

    Great job, CNN!
     
  16. Corrosion

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    Who's winning this free for all ?!
     
  17. ROXRAN

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    Ok sports fans ... so far Portland is still in the lead , let’s revisit top 5 individual performances by our all tifa roster championship !
     
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    Washington DC thinks they can be as ferocious as Portland ..pfft
     
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