meh. Didnt vote for him and won’t. Not a republican or conservative. embrace a little nuance. if he loses, my day will be fine, and I’ll go back to doing whatever I was doing the day before, because my life isn’t politics.
I think that it's pretty hilarious that every single time a Rasmussen Reports poll is published, the polling average dips and @rocketsjudoka feels a tinge of vindication for all his hopes and dreams It is literally ****ing clockwork. Rasmussen publishes a poll. You see validation of your theory. It's 2016 all over again! This exact same thing happened last week. I actually knew when I saw the Ras poll yesterday you would want to bring it up again. Can't wait to do this again next week. Please note, I don't feel the need to reciprocate every uptick. So, don't interpret my silence on them as a non burn. They're very definitely burns
No he isn't I believe every word he said right back to 2012 when he said Obama and Romney were the same.
It won’t matter what I say. He’s just proving my point. If the left wants independents, they’ve got to stop this kind of thing.
But that's why the polling average dipped, and why it dipped last week before rebounding, in addition to other factors The whole idea of bullshit outfits like Rasmussen is psychological warfare to lower resistance to effect what is at this point a fascist takeover. You can either cower before it or create an atmosphere that is less receptive of it.
You can’t poll trump supporters because a good portion of them will never admit to voting for him. Nothing is funnier than the holier than thou evangelicals voting for somebody like trump. It’s always been impressive to me the parts of the Bible super religious conservatives choose to acknowledge and ignore
Why is everything all about Trump? He's just the current Republican candidate. He'll be gone in at most 4 years and the Republican Party will still stand. I don't think it has changed much. It's just a little more honest, hostile, and obnoxious because it has taken on the personality of Trump in some ways. Seems like ideas are being pushed aside and being replaced by personalities. People argue Trump versus Biden and think they're talking politics. There's some value in this because these people gain a sort of cult of personality, especially Trump, but maybe we all contribute to that.
Leaving aside that I didn't talk about Rasumussen in this thread or any specific polls in this thread, do you think that Trump has a realistic chance of winning? What percentage would you put it at?
If you are as open as you claim, there should really not be any reason for anyone to convince you that a vote for the dip$hit is folly. If there is not enough evidence floating around for you to be convinced without the input of Clutchfans, then anything we say can not make a difference.
I don't think the country will survive another 4 years of this chaos. Trump will try to do ANYTHING that he wants, UNLESS the Democrats take the Senate and keep the House. Then, I think he will be IMPEACHED...AGAIN....and removed from office.
If Trump wins, it becomes a race to the bottom. Trump re election means that, no matter how much you abhor his model, it works. It worked and America is uglier than we feared. Unity, decency, propriety, science, facts ... all don’t matter. Democrats will need to decide whether to cling to traditional pre-trump politics, or go low. faithfulness to the law, rules, institutions is a weakness and competitive disadvantage in post Trump politics. I would imagine massive rioting. I would hope Democrats would do everything in their power to grind the administration to a halt and run out the clock.However, the damage done by a trump re election would echo for a long time. Others would adopt Trumps model. Dan Crenshaw comes to mind. We would need a critical mass of elected officials to denounce the trump model, but if trump is successful in getting re elected, I don’t see it happening. this election is way more important than anyone realizes.
There's no evidence of this. At least in 2016, you had a high number of people who said they were undecided or voting for a third party but all of the polling in 2020 has a much smaller pool of undecideds. Also when comparing IVR and internet polls to live polls, you don't see major differences in responses. If you really had a shy Trump voter phenomenon you would see wildly different numbers between IVR/internet polls and live voter polls. The problem in 2016 wasn't a shy Trump voter phenomenon. Rather, the issue was that pollsters didn't weight by education in 2016 so when they were sampling white voters in the Midwest, they didn't account for the sharp divergence in voting behavior between college and non-college white voters. Polls were pooling both of those groups together. Polls in 2018 and 2020 have been weighting by education to account for the sharp differences between college and non-college educated white voters. Regardless of where you are polling (urban, suburban or rural areas), those two groups diverge in consistent ways now. It used to be that just creating samples based on geography was enough to determine how white voters would vote. But pollsters found after 2016, that education level was one of the most important factors. As a result, polls in 2018 (which were largely accurate) accounted for this. Similarly in 2020, we're seeing the same thing.
