No, I'm pointing out the situations that lead to these incidents. Many factors of which are ignored. When you ignore the factors involved, particularly if they are the most significant factors, you don't fix the problem. Should I put you down for not wanting to fix the problem, then? Back to the recent example. If Blake hadn't had a warrant out him (for felony sexual assault, btw....apparently BLM>>>>MeToo?), had he not gotten into a domestic altercation while having that warrant out, and even after those two had he not pointedly resisted arrest and reached into his car, while the police were attempting to keep him from doing that...would he have been shot? No, he wouldn't have. Why ignore all those factors, unless you just don't want to fix the problem? Are you familiar with an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Everyone is wanting 10 lbs of cure here, and not paying any attention at all to prevention. Why? Because it doesn't suit their political viewpoint? If you really disagree with me, what you're actually saying is: Yes, go out and commit crimes so that you get warrants out for you. Then, while having those warrants, commit additional crimes, causing the cops to be called. Then, when they get there and attempt to serve the warrant, by all means resist arrest and reach into your car, as if for a weapon, while they are telling you not to and trying to pull you back. If that's not what you're saying, you're agreeing with me, whether you think so or not. If it is what you are saying, well ....
In 2019 Chicago's murder rate was 24 Here's a country murder rate ranking. Chicago would come in at 19 https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings
A) im black B) i never said black men deserved to be murdered I said blacks enconter police at a higher rate because our crime rate is much higher. Those are facts bro
this is stupid. Nobody in their right minds is saying this. 1. Getting warrants out on you is bad, you committed enough of a bad act to be charged with a crime. 2. Resisting arrest is illegal 3. Shooting this person in the back seven times in the back is bad policing and potentially criminal. all three are true. just because someone says #3 is true, that does not mean the person believes #1 and #2 are not true. 1 and 2 do not excuse or justify 3. That is the whole point. you have a lot of idiots around here who believe 1 and 2 justifies 3.
I'm not saying they do. I'm just saying they are all factors, and we should be looking at all factors. Particularly when the ones everyone is ignoring are possibly the main contributing factors. I'm also NOT saying we shouldn't look at police behaviour, training, etc. Those are factors as well. But looking JUST at police behavior won't solve the problem. In many of these situations, the outcome would potentially still be the same, even with more training, better policies, etc. So, it won't solve the problem. If we were focused more on police interactions with blacks in general, and not just these shooting, I would agree that much of that, most even, is on the police. Driving while black isn't something the black person can really change. It IS something the police can change. I think this is really the actual issue, and what is really causing the problems that blacks feel...they're tired of being treated differently. In which case, not only are we not focused on all the right factors, we're not even focused on the real problem. And if we were focused on that...it would naturally then include the interactions where shootings do occur as well.
Their is just as many crimes committed by white and brown Americans so let's take color out of it LEO's are just quicker to shot blacks first before trying other methods. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21
Maybe he should have just used the entire united states as an example and not just Chicago. San Diego is just like Uruguay.
The murder rate in the Chicago land area isn’t even in the top 30 worst in the country. The murder rate in places like Memphis and Baltimore and St Louis is far higher. Chicago gets a lot of attention for political reasons and because it is mostly isolated to 4-5 neighborhoods.
Preach. Visited large swaths of Chicago multiple times and felt nothing but safe. Awesome city when it isn’t freezing
Sure... if you trust the numbers from third world nations, which I do not based on what I have personally seen. Also that is firearm homicides.
You are the biggest waste of my time debating in this forum. I wrote this is a list of country rankings. I didn't put the list together as you can see. I didn't say its a list of third world countries I already wrote in an earlier post that non third wprld central american countries rank the highest. So what compelled you to ask that? Nevermind i dont care. The pnly poinnt is that some American cities are violent. One year the murder rate in Baltimore was 55 which would put them 2nd or 3rd on that list
Chicago is politicized for a lot of reason, race, politics, etc. I totally understand that. That being said the violence is off the charts and yes its isolated to to the black neighborhoods
It depends on what you mean by third world. I’ll just say this.... 70% of the country of Mexico isn’t controlled by the Mexican government, but by drug cartels. The cartels have their own police forces. Brazil isn’t any better. There are many horrendous things that happen in Brazil that are never reported or discussed. You are FAR safer in the USA than Mexico or Brazil. Two of the three previous Mexican President’s were taking tens of millions of dollars from drug lords.
Whites are 76% Hispanics 18% Hispanics 14% Blacks commit more total murder. Hispanics aren't in the discussion. They dont have problems with police despite all the vitriol spewed towards them in today's politics. They dont have Hispanic Lives Matter
In the Breonna Taylor case, if the boyfriend had dotted and taken out every cop that illegally entered their house would the certain people blindly backing those cops now back Breonna and the Boyfriend's self defense the same way? Because I remember when a female cop murdered a guy sitting on his own couch in his own apartment, some of the reaction was appalling and ridiculous some even blamed the guy. smh. And has there ever been a case like that? Where cops goes into the wrong house and end sup getting shot. but it was in self defense, so the charges are dropped? Breonna's Taylor's killers deserve sentencing and a firing squad. It's not even a political stance . Cops/borderpatrols/ people with 'authority' can and will get power trippy . There needs to be severe consequences for those that do abuse their oath. Unless the oath means nothing. I had the cops back in the 'meth deal gone bad' shoot out here in houston, when those inside the house were reported to be shooting first and were drug dealers. After the facts came out, I'm like take those cops out, justice for the cute dog and the white couple!
Agreed. Third world is kind of a relative. Im saying Central American countries aren't third world but obviously a lot of territory in those countries have no government security. The violence on the Mexican US border before Obama was some of the scariest stuff ever seen
