Kenosha police shoots black man multiple times in his back in front of his children, declares curfew

From the video, the door was barely opened when he was shot. Not yet in the act of reaching for something. So the assumption is way too early. In fact, I think the leading cop has the chance to prevent the door from opening. He instead circled to his back and wait for the door to open.

Head scratcher why it led up to that point. Why 2 cops did not attempt to tackle him when his back is against theirs, or taser him more.

 

Well clearly they were trying to arrest him on the opposite side of the car and he got away. He then walks at a calm pace towards his car door and they pursue. They had an absolute right to take him down there I just don't get why they didn't try to take him down again before he opened that door. They had plenty of time, his back was to them...I mean come on bro...this isn't about defending Blake as a saint but should the cops be trained to not let him get to that car door? It's not like they are all on the ground and he opens the door and they shoot him. The one who shoots him is literally holding the back of his shirt when the shooting starts. WTf?

 

Yeah this is my frustration here. If you stipulate (as I do) that once the door was opened everything was in play because he certainly could have been going for a gun, then shouldn't you think cops should be trained to stop that situation from happening?

 

Kenosha Keystone Koppers

 

They tried. It didn't work. I wonder if tazers are ineffective against people that are stronger and more massive than average and on an adrenaline rush of some sort.

The way a lot of people are talking about this it is as if the cops had a lot of time to make decisions and it is as if these decisions are easy to make. Very, very few things would have handled this better. Most would have shot, although maybe not as nervously as this cop did.

 

They did have plenty of time. He didn't run to his car door, he walked at a calm pace. They followed behind him shouting. When he opened his car door the cop who shot him is holding his clothes.

The idea that they had no time to attempt to restrain him again is laughable.

 

Would they if he was white?

 

Blake's mom is full of grace. She had a good interview with don lemon last night.

The third degree sexual assault charge is troubling as the victim is apparently between 14-16 years old.

 

On use of tasers and how effective they may or may not be:

https://www.nytimes.com/article/police-tasers.html

Interesting info. Helps to explain why the cops may have decided not to deploy the taser a second time. It makes the point that a taser can actually escalate rather than deescalate a situation. It can actually cause someone to be more aggressive and refuse to follow orders.

Cops need to be better equipped to make arrests without relying on lethal force.

 

Well as despicable as the charge might be, he is innocent until proven guilty.
Here's the Wisconsin statute:

Third Degree Sexual Assault: A person can be imprisoned not more than five years or fined not more than $10,000 for committing third degree sexual assault. This includes:

• Sexual intercourse with a person without consent of that person, or
• Sexual contact with intentional penile ejaculation with a person without consent of that person

It's not a capital offence

 

That is troubling, what do you think about Trump and his being sued twice for having sex with a 13 year old? Still troubling for you, sir?

https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/

I mean to be consistent in your message and all....

DD

 

Does having your children at home factor? Assuming the cop had kids.

I posted some speculation based on a blurry photo that Blake had a knife in his hand on his walk to the car door. That would explain why they had to let him go from the scuffle on the ground, why they had guns drawn on him, and why tackling him wasn't an option.

Regardless, it was a walk that lasted seconds.

 

The cop's kids were not in the car. The children should have been a part of a trained police officer's situational assessment.
Is the perps actions related to a deep seated need to protect the children? Would the perp initiate a shootout with children in the car?

Could they just disable the car and back off?

 

Good question. I thought that if George Floyd was white, Chauvin wouldn't have killed him, and if Chauvin was Black, he wouldn't have killed Floyd. In this case, the decision was a quick one. So not sure, but definitely a better chance of not getting shot.

 

What ever happened to pepper spray? It tenders you effectively blind in most cases, at least for an instance, as far as I've ever heard.

 

Should Blake's kids been a part of his decision making process? Is fighting with the police to avoid getting arrested an appropriate way to protect his children? Were the cops a threat to his children? I don't think he was willing to have a shoot out with cops there, but he shouldn't have done something to make them think that he might be. Disable the car? I mean, how? Shoot at the tires?

 

By being there, they absolutely should have been part of the decision making process. The police officers first duty was to protect the children.

Shoot the tires 7 times instead of the man.

 

Deleted. I must be nicer.

 

I'm really surprised this is just now popping off, you know these militia types have been waiting to flex and get geared up.

 

And you know this how?