Anybody here who voted for Trump Switching to Biden?

Good point!

 

Very sorry to hear that.

I understand the desire to have some schaudenfraude over stories like this and post things like "Karma is a b****!" but these are tragedies and feel bad for their family and friends.

One would hope it wouldn't take tragedy to learn to take this disease seriously..

 

To answer your initial question, the goal isn't to convert Trump *supporters*. It's to convince people who voted for Trump because they just tend to vote Republican, but have questions or aren't convinced he's the right guy anymore. This tweet above sounds like an example of the persuadable voter Dems are targeting. They have questions about Trump, but still may need to be convinced that Democrats are not evil and are not going to destroy the world. That's the target audience of the convention, and those "former Republicans" are the the difference between winning a narrow base-victory and winning control of the Senate and having a broader ability to accomplish something once elected.

 

I didn't vote last election because I was disgusted that Trump was the nominee and I wouldn't vote for Clinton. The MSM and left's reaction to him winning the election and their radical shift sealed my vote for him. Putting up Biden as a 'puppet' makes it even more obvious that more house cleaning is necessary. Hussein and HRC sold our country out. I'm looking forward to 4 more years. 8 more, if you fall for his troll. 12 more if you fall for mine.

I've seen one Biden sign in my neighborhood and at least 20 or more Trump signs. West Harris County appears to be MAGA country.

 

That's a very sad story. We are supposed to be an advanced country in terms of our democratic values, free press and criminal justice - it's jarring when a death is involved in forming peoples' political opinion. Wouldn't wish this on anyone.

 

A perfect example of the problem with conservatives - rather than think critically, they choose to vote against their own interests (and the general welfare) in order to stick it to their imagined boogeymen (libtards, fake news, Killary and Muslim Manchurian Candidates).

Until conservatives learn to love this country more than they hate "the other", we're going to continue to decline.

 

I agree.. We need a country wide repudiation of Trump and narrow xenophobic views that allowed him to come to power. I don't agree with Biden on everything and parts of the Democratic platform. Obviously for the OP I don't agree with much of the progressive agenda. This isn't about 100% agreement this is about the nature of this country that government including the Executive branch functions within a Constitutional structure and is only sustained by not by paying lip service to it but actually abiding by the ethical principals of it.

Trump built his support by appealing to the worst instincts of this country. By appealing to fear and victimization. What he called "American carnage." There are legitimate reasons to be fearful and many Americans have been victimized by changes brought on by globalization and automation. Also the culture has changed where the white, male, and Christian doesn't dominate like it once did. What Trump did though was tell these people that it wasn't up to them to change and then fed them a line of simplistic reasoning to address those changes. Things like that the Wall would stop immigration and that Mexico would pay for it were abject falsehoods, something that Trump himself was aware of. His trade war was a massive blunt instrument that ended up hurting some of his most ardent supporters. Trump has built a career on marketing and Trump Presidency was just another aspect in marketing like Trump Vodka, Trump Airlines and Trump University. The value it has given back to those who bought into has been the same those who bought into those earlier Trump schemes.

Winning people over isn't about turning Trump supporters into progressive or even moderate Democrats. There are legitimate differences that would be naive to expect that people will just give them up. It is about recognizing that the danger that is presented by a President who doesn't respect the Constitution and who's primary concern is enriching and aggrandizing his and himself and his family.

 

Wow.

 

So basically you're saying that it's not about issues such as the economy, COVID-19, US standing in the World or Constitutional Principles. It's about trolling the Libs. It's about sticking it to media..

 

We heard you the 1st time bub.

You do you O's

 

Not sure how people can trust Trump as a person.

I guess he's their generalissimo in a war against the Unwashed Heathen Left.

Weak and old need not apply.

 

This is the I don't care what he does or doesn't do as long as it's not a free giving lazy loser loving handouts or all Dems are radical leftists and commies mentality. Who are the crazy ones really? There actually are God loving people who spit on people with color and would step on a homeless man without looking back as they rush past him to grab a double latte on their way to church.

To all who are hell bent about voting against anyone in the Democratic Party:

Not all Democrats are radical. Many Democrats believe in God and not all Republicans do. Republicans do live in poverty. There are Republicans on welfare. There are radical Republicans. Not all protesters are criminals and looters. All looters are criminals, but not all criminals are Democrats. There are criminals who are Republicans, and some are wealthy and hold powerful positions.

 

Fox News has done a fantastic job poisoning some of my friends/family.

 

I think when it comes to the economy, Trump wins. Hands down. He’s already proven it. I’m not sure Biden and Co. would’ve done any better with the Covid. Refer to Joe’s critique of shutting down the flights and Nancy telling everyone to go grab Chinese food. I’d say things would’ve been exponentially worse. As far as America’s ‘world standing’ - Hussein and Clinton sold out so much, Trump’s actions have been reactive. Take a look at Dem run cities.... Yeah. I’ll pass.

 

So if we supported local restaurants things would be worse?

 

My parents have been life long Republican voters, and they voted for Trump in 2016. Their reasoning was to stack the court to get rid of abortion.
Now that the court is stacked, they can't wait to get rid of Trump because "he's full on crazy and might destroy this country".

 

That's it? What has Trump done?

 

Well I'm glad to see you're talking issues instead of just complaining about the MSM.

I agree to a certain extent that a Democratic might not have done better with COVID-19 but we do know the current Administration has done terribly. Biden or Pelosi aren't the President Trump is. COVID-19 certainly isn't Trump's fault but how he has handled it is. The contradiction, chaos along with the wishful thinking has made it impossible to develop any coherent national strategy. In regard to the economy this is really the time for government to step in to try to keep what's left afloat yet we've seen dithering and half measures. Trump has shown he not only can't work with Democrats he can't even use his political capital to get Congressional Republicans to work on something.

For the pre-COVID-19 economy. Yes it was booming and I personally benefited from it but it was very uneven. I told this story here a few months ago that I have a friend who is a big time Trump supporter who lives in exurban MN but last year he was complaining about how difficult things had gotten for him with health care costs rising and since the farm economy was taking a hit in MN from the trade war that was hurting him. The disconnect in the economy is even greater now with the stock marketing reaching record highs while small businesses are getting crushed.

As far as World standing if the previous Administration sold out why did our standing start plummeting when Trump came into office? I agree Obama wasn't perfect and will say he was terrible regarding Syria that said I don't recall people flying a giant Obama baby balloon in London or Paris.

For those Democratic run cities living in the first one that got hit but since the first week of June it's been very peaceful. It seems like my Democratic Mayor and governor have managed to get things under control. What is funny is that Trump takes the credit for Minneapolis even though no federal forces were ever deployed here.

 

Just to add to my post above. I've noticed this trend with Trump and his supporters. They will talk about how he's President and how much power he has, such as, "He built the greatest economy ever!", he has the power to send Federal troops anywhere. Yet when it comes to stuff like COVID-19 or riots in cities then Trump is suddenly helpless and it's always somebody else's fault or responsibility.